Posession Arrow

[Anidis]

From another lurker-coach:

Would you be willing to provide a list of times when the possession arrow does not change following the award of possession?

Thanks in advance!

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Anidis

From another lurker-coach:

Would you be willing to provide a list of times when the possession arrow does not change following the award of possession?

Thanks in advance!

1. A foul.
2. Ball not legally touched (usually the defense)
3. Defensive team commits a violation (look at #2)

Not aware of any more reasons it would not change.

Peace

[SNIPERBBB]

It's a short list, it does not change if:
Either team commits a foul or the defensive team commits a violation before the throw-in ends.

[pfan1981]

A foul by either team, the arrow does not change.

A violation by the defensive team, the arrow doesn’t change.

The last game I worked, my partner had a thrower almost to a five count, he throws to throw it off the defender and the defender ends up kicking it. Told my partner that if that was an AP throw in that the arrow wouldn’t change. I was the C and told the coach as well. He admitted he didn’t know that but appreciated the rules knowledge.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by pfan1981

A foul by either team, the arrow does not change.



A violation by the defensive team, the arrow doesn’t change.



The last game I worked, my partner had a thrower almost to a five count, he throws to throw it off the defender and the defender ends up kicking it. Told my partner that if that was an AP throw in that the arrow wouldn’t change. I was the C and told the coach as well. He admitted he didn’t know that but appreciated the rules knowledge.

Why would you ever give a hypothetical situation to a coach? To show how "smart" you are?


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[DrPete]

The only way I can imagine that the defense could violate on a throw in is by a kicked ball. There probably are other ways, but may be even less common.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by DrPete

The only way I can imagine that the defense could violate on a throw in is by a kicked ball. There probably are other ways, but may be even less common.

Hit the ball with a fist.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by DrPete

The only way I can imagine that the defense could violate on a throw in is by a kicked ball. There probably are other ways, but may be even less common.

Going out of bounds to avoid a screen.

[Scrapper1]

At a recent college game, we had a defensive foul before the AP throw-in was released. The guy at the table actually argued with me about changing the arrow. Had to kind of be a jerk about it to get the game moving. Then went back during a time-out to try to explain. I'm still not sure he believed me.

[sdoebler]

I miss spoke

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by sdoebler

This is not correct, if the offensive team commits a team control foul before the throw in ends the arrow does change.

Dude, seriously. Listen to what people are trying to tell you. The arrow only changes under two conditions:

1) When the AP throw-in is completed.
2) When the throw-in team violates.

That's it. That's the list.

Foul = NO ARROW CHANGE.

Edited to add citation: Rule 6-4-5

[sdoebler]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Dude, seriously. Listen to what people are trying to tell you. The arrow only changes under two conditions:

1) When the AP throw-in is completed.
2) When the throw-in team violates.

That's it. That's the list.

Foul = NO ARROW CHANGE.

Edited to add citation: Rule 6-4-5

You are correct my mistake

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by DrPete

The only way I can imagine that the defense could violate on a throw in is by a kicked ball. There probably are other ways, but may be even less common.

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Hit the ball with a fist.

Originally Posted by frezer11

Going out of bounds to avoid a screen.

+Excessive elbow swinging.

[frezer11]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

+Excessive elbow swinging.

There is no rule requiring this violation to be only called on the ball handler, but have you ever seen or called it on anyone who was not in possession of the ball? I can't think of a reason to be swinging your arms without the ball.

[Beaverfan]

Originally Posted by Scrapper1

Dude, seriously. Listen to what people are trying to tell you. The arrow only changes under two conditions:

1) When the AP throw-in is completed.
2) When the throw-in team violates.

That's it. That's the list.

Foul = NO ARROW CHANGE.

Edited to add citation: Rule 6-4-5

OP here. Thanks. Guess i got away with one. Is there a free place online to read the NFHS rule book, so i can look up rules?