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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:19pm
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For those that would not allow "switching" the HC mid-game. Would you allow this?

Asst. coach tells you before the game the HC will not make it on time. AC agrees that he will not use the coaching box and officials should not honor time-out requests from the bench (the players have been instructed to request timeouts if they hear the AC ask for one). When the HC does arrive, he will use the box and request TOs as normal.
Yes I would allow this, and I would allow the acting HC all privileges of the real HC until the latter's arrival. Once the real HC arrives, the acting HC will no longer have those privileges; if he doesn't understand this, I will make it clear. And upon his arrival, if applicable, the real head coach will be informed of any bench T's that occurred in his absence and be reminded that he will not have the coaching box for the entire game (and that those bench T's are indirect to him).
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:23pm
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I'm allowing the situation as described in the OP. I'm not forcing the V coach to coach the entirety of the JV game.

If the situation were to arise in a V game I'm allowing it as well provided its communicated before the game and we inform the other coach what is going on.

All direct, indirect Ts would carry over and the "acting HC" would now be treated the same as any other asst coach or bench personnel.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:43pm
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If you want all the privileges, you better be there when the game starts.
Let's flip it. Real head coach is coaching. Second period, real head coach is called away on a day job business related emergency (one of our local head coaches is the supervisor of public works in the city he coaches in). Are we not going to allow the assistant coach to take over and act as the head coach with all rights and privileges?

If the coach switching is not unsporting, and the opposing coach is informed, and agrees, I don't have a problem with coach switching under certain (but not all) circumstances.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 02:47pm
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You guys are making this WAY too complicated.

The intent of the rule is to prevent two individuals on the bench from flip-flopping head coach privileges throughout the game, or from simultaneously acting as head coaches (IOW, to prevent co-head coaches). Do any of these hypothetical situations fit under the intent of the rule? Answer that question (hopefully with a big fat "NO") and there's your answer.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 06:29pm
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You guys are making this WAY too complicated.

The intent of the rule is to prevent two individuals on the bench from flip-flopping head coach privileges throughout the game, or from simultaneously acting as head coaches (IOW, to prevent co-head coaches). Do any of these hypothetical situations fit under the intent of the rule? Answer that question (hopefully with a big fat "NO") and there's your answer.
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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 03:55pm
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Let's flip it. Real head coach is coaching. Second period, real head coach is called away on a day job business related emergency (one of our local head coaches is the supervisor of public works in the city he coaches in). Are we not going to allow the assistant coach to take over and act as the head coach with all rights and privileges?

If the coach switching is not unsporting, and the opposing coach is informed, and agrees, I don't have a problem with coach switching under certain (but not all) circumstances.
Just so you know, I had a situation during a tournament where the normal HC allowed his son to be the HC during a game. I even had to ask why the HC was acting as the AC. He explained and we moved on.

Again, do what you wish. We are all not the same in how we deal with things. I am just saying it better be pretty explanatory about the situation for me to even consider this. But if he/she comes late and nothing was said, I am going with who was the HC when the game started. The rules also say that the Referee can make decisions that are not specifically covered in the rulebook. Well, this is one of those situations.

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Old Sun Jan 21, 2018, 07:30pm
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I am just saying it better be pretty explanatory about the situation for me to even consider this. But if he/she comes late and nothing was said, I am going with who was the HC when the game started.
No explanation? Agree.
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Old Mon Jan 22, 2018, 03:30am
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Let's flip it. Real head coach is coaching. Second period, real head coach is called away on a day job business related emergency (one of our local head coaches is the supervisor of public works in the city he coaches in). Are we not going to allow the assistant coach to take over and act as the head coach with all rights and privileges?

If the coach switching is not unsporting, and the opposing coach is informed, and agrees, I don't have a problem with coach switching under certain (but not all) circumstances.
This actually happened earlier this year in my area on a GV game. The head coach collapsed and had to be removed via medical transport during the contest. The officials allowed an asst coach to take over all HC duties.
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