Identical numbers

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by Rich

I think this is off.

In football, we ignore illegal or duplicate numbers at lower levels. We're strict at the varsity level. Has nothing to do with guts, but the realization that they get hand-me-down uniforms and everyone gets that and nobody cares about being strict with it.

In hoops, I would be the same way at certain levels. Know the audience and the customer. JV? Middle ground.


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Exactly!

There's no reason to be an as$ at the JV level. It's very common for JV teams to not have enough of the same uniform. 19???????? Come on. I think very few of us have seen 19 players on a JV team.

I would guess that most of us would know the proper protocol in this situation. An assignor agreeing just means your leadership is equally over the top in regards to this.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Somebody once told me, if you don't have the guts to make that call at the middle school/JV level, what makes you think others will have confidence in you to do it at the varsity level?

Not relevant. MS/Fr/JV get a pass on illegal uniforms....by directive from our organization. Many organizations operate that way.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Not relevant. MS/Fr/JV get a pass on illegal uniforms....by directive from our organization. Many organizations operate that way.

Same thinking here through the OHSAA. One possible exception, I think, is that by this time JV teams should be expected to have white home jerseys; but I'm not 100% sure on that one.

[riverfalls57]

Back in the dark ages when I was coaching a "B" squad team (Sophomores) I had two players with the same number. One was a 6'3" Caucasian (1st string) and the other was a 5'9' African American (3rd string), I always talked to the other coach and the officials to get their ok and assured them that they would never be on the court at the same time. I always wanted each player to start at least one game so I decide to start my third string in one of the final games of the year. The other team (whose coach signed off on the two #32's when we met with the officials) is ahead by about 8-10 points in the second quarter when I decide to put my starter's in the game. The other coach immediately tells the officials that my #32 can't play because of the duplicate number and that my team should be given a "T". The officials say "Coach we went over this before the game and you gave it your ok". Coach says that there is no authority to set aside a rule. The officials look at me and I tell them that its ok to give us a "T" and that my starter who wears #32 won't play. I was a little upset with the other coach. Long story short, we end up winning by about 30 points and after the game the other coach won't look at me or shake my hand.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Somebody once told me, if you don't have the guts to make that call at the middle school/JV level, what makes you think others will have confidence in you to do it at the varsity level?

That person is another example of trying to be the "law" in a JV game and showing everybody how well they know the rules.

It's a JV game. Not the state championship.

Not enforcing it in a JV game does not translate to guts of any degree.

[SD Referee]

Originally Posted by ODog

I agree with the overall sentiments and responses expressed here, but this is major factor that might mitigate things for me.

I was thinking the same. We all know the rule, but let's keep in mind that it's a JV game. A teaching opportunity. Not a situation to show that you are the "law" and know the rule book by heart.

Obviously a varsity game is different. Having 19 girls on a JV team probably makes it hard to find 19 of the same jersey with different numbers for some schools. Sometimes it comes down to resources and economics.

[Rich]

I've only seen this at the youth level and they always seem to know what kid got the foul.

I'm just happy, typically, if the JV crew doesn't call 50 fouls (30 of which were avoidable) amd we stsrt on time.


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