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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 11:02am
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On #1, are any of you calling this if the rebound goes away? I usually would let this go unless the was a short rebound to that side.
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 12:52pm
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1) With all the emphasis on rebounding plays and all the videos the NCAA has put out, I have no problem with the call. If that got sent into a coordinator, I am not sure I'd be able to explain a no call on the grab and pull on the waist when I got the "Why wasn't this called?" phone call?

2) No brainer.

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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 02:11pm
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1) With all the emphasis on rebounding plays and all the videos the NCAA has put out, I have no problem with the call. If that got sent into a coordinator, I am not sure I'd be able to explain a no call on the grab and pull on the waist when I got the "Why wasn't this called?" phone call?
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-- If that play, as called, got sent into my supervisor(s), I would get chastised for not having play awareness nor a patient whistle.

-- I'm betting Teddy wants that call back.
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 02:22pm
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-- If that play, as called, got sent into my supervisor(s), I would get chastised for not having play awareness nor a patient whistle.

-- I'm betting Teddy wants that call back.
There is a big part of that equation. We are not Teddy Valentine a multiple Final Four official. He has the ability to do things we would get questioned on depending on who we work for. I just watched the NCAA Video where they JD Collins discussed post play and calls and this call fits in that area. That is why I am OK with the call because a lot less was advocated to be called by the NCAA and JD Collins. I might be in the minority in this position, but I bet it was supported and probably something he was trying to address earlier in the game.

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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 04:58pm
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There is a big part of that equation. We are not Teddy Valentine a multiple Final Four official. He has the ability to do things we would get questioned on depending on who we work for. I just watched the NCAA Video where they JD Collins discussed post play and calls and this call fits in that area. That is why I am OK with the call because a lot less was advocated to be called by the NCAA and JD Collins. I might be in the minority in this position, but I bet it was supported and probably something he was trying to address earlier in the game.

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I agree. The JD Collins videos contain contact that is so marginal that they want called. They are trying their best to hammer home freedom of movement (period).

In a couple years it will be something else, and so on and so forth.
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 08:14pm
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Play #2: The resumption of play inbound pass should have been at the 28-foot demarcation line of Michigan' frontcourt.
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 10:46pm
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Play #2: The resumption of play inbound pass should have been at the 28-foot demarcation line of Michigan' frontcourt.
You mean the out of bounds throw-in spot?

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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 10:52pm
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You mean the out of bounds throw-in spot?
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Yes, that is what I meant.
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 11:50pm
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Yes, that is what I meant.
That is not quite what the rules state. Rule 7-3-2c says:

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When there is a team control in the backcourt of the ball is loose in the backcourt and any situation in Article 1 occur, play shall resume to either the point of interruption or the designated spot nearest where the violation or foul occurred.
Since this was a violation as stated in 7-3-1a says:

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A violation as in Rule 9 or a simultaneous violation;
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Old Tue Dec 05, 2017, 11:23pm
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Play #2: The resumption of play inbound pass should have been at the 28-foot demarcation line of Michigan' frontcourt.
No it should not have. Think about what the rule says, and who the violation is on.
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Old Wed Dec 06, 2017, 08:20am
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No it should not have. Think about what the rule says, and who the violation is on.
Frontcourt throw-ins after a violation are done at the one of the 4 designated throw-in spots. That has been part of the pre-game for every college game I've done this season.
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