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Old Wed Nov 08, 2017, 11:26pm
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A multiple foul has two aspects: 1. The fouls are committed by two (or more) teammates at approximately the same time, 2. The same opponent is fouled.

If either of those parts are absent, then the word "false" is added as a modifier.
So a false multiple foul could be either: 1. Two fouls by teammates against the same opponent, but not at approximately the same time (could just be the same time on the game clock), or 2. Two fouls by teammates at approximately the same time, but against two separate opponents.

True double fouls and false double fouls work the same way.
False multiple definition clearly says one happens after the other. If the fouls truly happened at same time against different opponents it doesn't meet the multiple definition or false multiple definition. If they happen against different opponents we have to choose one as coming firstvto make it fit a definition. The false multiple.
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Old Thu Nov 09, 2017, 08:55am
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False multiple definition clearly says one happens after the other.
No, it doesn't.
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Old Thu Nov 09, 2017, 10:05am
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No, it doesn't.

Yes it does��.
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A false multiple foul is a situation in which there are two or more fouls by the same team and the LAST foul is committed before the clock is started following the FIRST.....

We have words FIRST and LAST in the definition. Not "simultaneous" or even "approximately same time" as we have in other places. That means one happens after the other in the definition. Also the word FOLLOWING. One follows the other..,
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Old Thu Nov 09, 2017, 11:37am
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Yes it does��.
4-19-12
A false multiple foul is a situation in which there are two or more fouls by the same team and the LAST foul is committed before the clock is started following the FIRST.....

We have words FIRST and LAST in the definition. Not "simultaneous" or even "approximately same time" as we have in other places. That means one happens after the other in the definition. Also the word FOLLOWING. One follows the other..,
But we know from the backcourt interp that "last" and "first" can also mean "simultaneous."
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Old Thu Nov 09, 2017, 07:51pm
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But we know from the backcourt interp that "last" and "first" can also mean "simultaneous."
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