How to handle end of game clock situation

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

If an official called a 3-second violation while the clock was improperly not running, it would be legitimate to remove three seconds from the clock. However, using partial 3-second counts which are mentally done puts the officiating crew on dangerous ground. Why? Because it cannot substantiated in any way and there is no way to distinguish a mental count from simply making up a number in one's head.
In this day and age, decisions need to be verifiable or officials will be accused of making stuff up. Don't put yourself in that situation and use visible counts.

The point is not a 3 second count. That is only mentioned because the arm doesn't need to swing. You need to be right in what you decide but don't be afraid to do the right thing. The film will show when the ball is touched etc. Have a little courage and do what you know is right instead of cya. If you know it's 2 seconds take it off. Regardless of whether your arm swings...

It certainly can be substantiated. The film will tell you how much time went off. I do agree with all other points.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Have a little courage and do what you know is right instead of cya.

Advocating that officials do what is right/fair instead of following the rules is subjective and therefore not proper. I would say have the courage to enforce the rules properly when things go sideways. Making up your own solutions to problems which arise is not the way to go.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Advocating that officials do what is right/fair instead of following the rules is subjective and therefore not proper. I would say have the courage to enforce the rules properly when things go sideways. Making up your own solutions to problems which arise is not the way to go.

The rules allow for "other information" as Camron noted. If an official has a count in his head he can use it. He or she should not make up the time but an arm doesnt have to be swinging. The tape will show if the official took off the right amount of time or not.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Advocating that officials do what is right/fair instead of following the rules is subjective and therefore not proper. I would say have the courage to enforce the rules properly when things go sideways. Making up your own solutions to problems which arise is not the way to go.

"Official's Count" (without the preamble adjective of visible), "Other official information," and the "etc." modifier.

It's like the rules editors are being vague to allow a little room for interpretation on this issue; they very purposefully chose not to write themselves into a corner.

I get that you disagree with all of us and that that's not going to change. But I would point out that on the 0-10 scale of loose constructionist to strict constructionist, you are an 11.