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Old Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:36pm
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1) This should ideally never happen because you covered this in pregame as well as during the most recent stoppage in play.
How will pregame prevent not being able to hear the horn or prevent not being able to see the play?
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Old Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:32am
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How will pregame prevent not being able to hear the horn or prevent not being able to see the play?
I pregame that if the official responsible for this doesn't have a look or call to make that we then have a secondary (or in 3man tertiary) official who would make the call. Similar to OOB plays where we look for help.
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Old Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:23pm
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I pregame that if the official responsible for this doesn't have a look or call to make that we then have a secondary (or in 3man tertiary) official who would make the call. Similar to OOB plays where we look for help.
Still, the question remains. How does pregaming make the horn audible?
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Old Fri Oct 13, 2017, 08:22pm
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Still, the question remains. How does pregaming make the horn audible?
What the heck are you talking about? The question was about last second shot responsibility and the primary coverage official not sure what to do in case of uncertainty.
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Old Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:14pm
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What the heck are you talking about? The question was about last second shot responsibility and the primary coverage official not sure what to do in case of uncertainty.
The question was about the last second shot and not being able to tell if it was released before the horn or not. In my experience, the most likely reason to no know if the shot was released in time is not being able to hear the horn over the noise. It is usually not about being able to see the shot. If you can not hear the horn to tell, no amount of pregaming will fix that.
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Old Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:36pm
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The question was about the last second shot and not being able to tell if it was released before the horn or not. In my experience, the most likely reason to no know if the shot was released in time is not being able to hear the horn over the noise. It is usually not about being able to see the shot. If you can not hear the horn to tell, no amount of pregaming will fix that.
By making sure to remind your partners to pay attention to last second shots, even though they are not the calling official on that play, you have more ears on the horn (not sure that makes sense, but I think you know what I mean) and thus more likely to have somebody know what happened instead of possibly having to guess.
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Old Sat Oct 14, 2017, 06:13am
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The question was about the last second shot and not being able to tell if it was released before the horn or not. In my experience, the most likely reason to no know if the shot was released in time is not being able to hear the horn over the noise. It is usually not about being able to see the shot. If you can not hear the horn to tell, no amount of pregaming will fix that.
There was no mention of not hearing the horn. The question was regarding uncertainty if the ball was released in time or not.
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Old Sat Oct 14, 2017, 02:11pm
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There was no mention of not hearing the horn. The question was regarding uncertainty if the ball was released in time or not.
In fact, no mention was made of the reason why they were uncertain. It could be the horn as well as other reasons. And as I said, in my experience, not hearing the horn over crowd noise seems to be more common than not being able to see the shot.
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