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2017-18 NFHS Interpretations, Pt.2

SITUATION 8: A1, while dribbling the ball in the frontcourt near the midcourt line, has the ball strike the midcourt line and as the ball comes up from the dribble, A1 touches the ball and continues to dribble. RULING: Backcourt violation. A1 may not be the first to touch the ball in the backcourt if he/she or a teammate last touched or was touched by the ball in the frontcourt, before it went to the backcourt. (9-9-1)

SITUATION 9: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. The administering official reaches a four-second count when A1 passes the ball to A2, who had been standing in the free-throw lane since A1 had the ball at his/her disposal. RULING: Legal. Even though a team is now in control during a throw-in, the three-second rule specifically requires that a team be in control in its frontcourt for a violation to occur. Technically speaking, the thrower-in is out of bounds and not located in the frontcourt. (4-35-2, 9-7)

SITUATION 10: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her backcourt. The administering official reaches a four-second count when A1 passes the ball onto the court. A1s pass to A2, who is also in Team As backcourt, takes several bounces and six seconds before A2 picks up and controls the ball. RULING: Legal. Even though a team is now in control during a throw-in, the 10-second rule specifically requires that a player/team be in continuous control in its backcourt for 10 seconds for a violation to occur. Technically speaking, the thrower-in is out of bounds and not located in the backcourt. (4-35-2, 9-8)

SITUATION 11: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. A1s pass to A2, who is in the frontcourt standing near the free-throw line, is high, bounces several times and goes into Team As backcourt
untouched. A2 is then the first to control the ball in Team As backcourt. RULING: Legal. There is no backcourt violation since player control and team control had not yet been established in Team As frontcourt before the ball went into Team As backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally touches the ball in the backcourt and the backcourt count starts as soon as A2 gains control in his/her backcourt. (4-12-2, 9-9)

SITUATION 12: A1 has the ball for an end-line throw-in in his/her frontcourt. A1s pass to A2, who is in the frontcourt standing near the division line, is high and deflects off A2s hand and goes into Team As backcourt. A2 is then the first to control the ball in Team As backcourt. RULING: Legal. There is no backcourt violation since player control and team control had not yet been established in Team As frontcourt before the ball went into Team As backcourt. The throw-in ends when A2 legally touches the ball, but the backcourt count does not start until A2 gains control in his/her backcourt. (4-12-2, 9-9)

SITUATION 13: The head coach of Team A is upset that the foul count against his team is 7 to 2. He voices his opinion in an unsporting manner to the contest official. RULING: The official should stop play if it is not a break situation with a potential scoring opportunity and give the coach an official warning by notifying the scorekeeper and then letting the coach know that he has been warned. The scorekeeper should make note of the warning in the scorebook. This situation does not have to be given a warning; the coach could be issued a technical immediately. (4-48)

SITUATION 14: During a live ball, the assistant coach is off the bench and out of the coaching box giving instructions to a player on the court. RULING: The official should rule a technical on the assistant coach for being off the bench and out of the coaching box. (4-48)

SITUATION 15: During the second quarter, the head coach is off the bench expressing his disapproval of several calls made. As the team brings the ball down the floor into the frontcourt, the trail official stops play to issue a warning. RULING: The official is correct in issuing a warning to the coach for the complaints. The scorekeeper is notified, as well as the coach, of the warning. Another warning cannot be given. (4-48)

SITUATION 16: During the warm-up period, the referee notices on the back of Team Bs jersey the letters (a) PHHS and (b) P+E+T. RULING: Legal in (a) as the letters on the jersey represent the official name of the school; illegal in (b) as the letters do not represent the name of the school, which makes the jersey illegal. The head coach shall be charged with a direct technical foul and the game will begin with the opponents shooting two free throws and receiving the ball for a division line throw-in. The head coach will lose coaching-box privileges. (3-4-4, 10-6-4)

SITUATION 17: Team A is wearing a jersey with the school name above the number on the front and the player name in the shoulder area across the back. RULING: Legal. It is permissible to place the names in these locations. (3-4-4)
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Old Thu Oct 12, 2017, 04:50am
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SITUATION 13: The head coach of Team A is upset that the foul count against his team is 7 to 2. He voices his opinion in an unsporting manner to the contest official. RULING: The official should stop play if it is not a break situation with a potential scoring opportunity and give the coach an official warning by notifying the scorekeeper and then letting the coach know that he has been warned. The scorekeeper should make note of the warning in the scorebook. This situation does not have to be given a warning; the coach could be issued a technical immediately. (4-48)
Glad to see this got cleaned up.
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Old Thu Oct 12, 2017, 07:40am
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Glad to see this got cleaned up.
Wasn't there a substantially similar case already in the book?
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Old Thu Oct 12, 2017, 08:46am
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Iowa has taken this a step farther. Warnings issued during play will be recorded in the book during the next stoppage in play. Officials will not stop play just for a warning.
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:23pm
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SITUATION 14: During a live ball, the assistant coach is off the bench and out of the coaching box giving instructions to a player on the court. RULING: The official should rule a technical on the assistant coach for being off the bench and out of the coaching box. (4-48)
Until I read this, I thought I had this in perspective. I have often addressed a HC about an AC's actions, including varying degrees of the above offense.

This interp makes it appear this is a Major offense of 10-5-2 and/or 10/5/4, since those are "warnable" offenses. Do you think it is the "out of the coaching box" that makes this a T?
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:28pm
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Until I read this, I thought I had this in perspective. I have often addressed a HC about an AC's actions, including varying degrees of the above offense.

This interp makes it appear this is a Major offense of 10-5-2 and/or 10/5/4, since those are "warnable" offenses. Do you think it is the "out of the coaching box" that makes this a T?
Assistant coaches don't get warnings.
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:36pm
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Assistant coaches don't get warnings.
According to 10-5-1a,b,d,e,f,2&4, officials shall warn the head coach unless the offense is judged to be major. Guess I need to step up my game.
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:48pm
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According to 10-5-1a,b,d,e,f,2&4, officials shall warn the head coach unless the offense is judged to be major. Guess I need to step up my game.
The situation you referenced was specifically about what the assistant coach was doing, and the new rule specifically says that assistant coaches do not get the courtesy of a warning. So if the assistant coach is misbehaving, and you need to punish him for it, the new official warning is not an option.
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the new rule specifically says that assistant coaches do not get the courtesy of a warning.
Is that derived from the interp or is it written somewhere that I missed?
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Is that derived from the interp or is it written somewhere that I missed?
I stand corrected - apparently based on some of the situations from the handout they are also allowing warnings for bench personnel. That's cute. Here in Texas we only give official warnings to head coaches. Assistant coaches and other bench personnel don't get afforded that courtesy. Sorry for the confusion.
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
This is the rule because it works so well in a couple of other NF sports like football, where we have a sideline warning that results in no penalty. It puts the coach on notice and all coaches on notice and then we do not have to give any other penalty in the end because we made it known they had a warning. Works very well in football.

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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:24am
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
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Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
Agreed - it is a major POE this year NOT to do that in NCAA - M. J.D. talked on it for what seemed like 30 minutes.
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Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
NCAA Men's officials are being told to issue T's after giving warnings this season, especially now that the coaches have a 38' box to wander.
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