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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 03:48pm
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According to 10-5-1a,b,d,e,f,2&4, officials shall warn the head coach unless the offense is judged to be major. Guess I need to step up my game.
The situation you referenced was specifically about what the assistant coach was doing, and the new rule specifically says that assistant coaches do not get the courtesy of a warning. So if the assistant coach is misbehaving, and you need to punish him for it, the new official warning is not an option.
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 04:01pm
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the new rule specifically says that assistant coaches do not get the courtesy of a warning.
Is that derived from the interp or is it written somewhere that I missed?
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:12pm
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Is that derived from the interp or is it written somewhere that I missed?
I stand corrected - apparently based on some of the situations from the handout they are also allowing warnings for bench personnel. That's cute. Here in Texas we only give official warnings to head coaches. Assistant coaches and other bench personnel don't get afforded that courtesy. Sorry for the confusion.
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Old Mon Oct 16, 2017, 05:15pm
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:44am
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
This is the rule because it works so well in a couple of other NF sports like football, where we have a sideline warning that results in no penalty. It puts the coach on notice and all coaches on notice and then we do not have to give any other penalty in the end because we made it known they had a warning. Works very well in football.

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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:24am
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NFHS should go with NCAA on this one..


Book warnings are for "coaching" outside of the coaching box.

All other warnings (quiet word, public hand, etc) should not come in the form of game stoppages or book warnings.

If it's not bad, diffuse it - if it's bad, whack.
Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:33am
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Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
Agreed - it is a major POE this year NOT to do that in NCAA - M. J.D. talked on it for what seemed like 30 minutes.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:34am
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Except we all have seen plenty of NCAA-M games where this is ignored (including the few that I work); I routinely see men's college officials put warnings in the book for behavior issues. What you said might be the rule, but it's seldom applied like that. Heck, I don't think I've ever seen a coach get a warning for coaching outside the box.

Heck, even in high school games before this rule change there were plenty of officials that would put these types of warnings in the book.
NCAA Men's officials are being told to issue T's after giving warnings this season, especially now that the coaches have a 38' box to wander.
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Old Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:01am
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NCAA Men's officials are being told to issue T's after giving warnings this season, especially now that the coaches have a 38' box to wander.
Are you speaking to giving warnings for coaching outside of the box? In which case the following T would be a Class B
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