Response to player protests

[Raymond]

I believe we had this conversation last year.

I would do absolutely nothing in regards to the player. It's none of my (our) business.

If an official left, I would consider him/her unprofessional and probably wouldn't work with that official again.

If an official informed his/her assignor that the he/she doesn't want to work games involving schools that make such gestures, I would respect that.

[jTheUmp]

It's absolutely none of my business, no matter what my personal feelings on the subject might or might not be.

I would do absolutely nothing.

But if I had a partner who refused to officiate the game based on that action, that person be immediately added to my "do not work with under any circumstances" list (which currently only has 2 members).

[riverfalls57]

I had a BV team twice last year that went back into the locker room for the National Anthem. None of my business. I would not consider it professional if an Official refused to work the game. However an Official always would have the option not to work a game for that team in the future.

[SNIPERBBB]

Ignore it. Unless you all do your anthem lineups differently, they wouldnt be in my eyeline to see anyway and I'm not looking for it.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

... my "do not work with under any circumstances" list (which currently only has 2 members).

Me, and who else?

[SC Official]

This is the memo that all SCHSL officials got last year regarding officials participating in the protests.

If a player does this I can’t imagine I’d get involved, and if another official got involved in any way, including walking out, I would never see him/her again. I live in the most conservative region of a conservative state, so I really can’t imagine this being an issue at most of the schools I go to. But, I’ve been wrong before.

MEMO Wednesday, October 26, 2016

To SCHSL Certified Officials,
I hope that each of you are doing well and enjoying the slight change in temperatures across our beautiful state. Traditionally, officials have been expected to stand for the playing of the National Anthem and address the American flag, also referred to as “Old Glory.” The expectations of the SCHSL and member schools are that SCHSL officials will continue to honor this tradition. However, with the recent social protests that are occurring during the National Anthem throughout our country, we realize there may be officials who may be considering this action during a SCHSL athletic event.
Therefore, if any official plans to make a political or social statement (words or actions) while on an assignment for one of our contests, he/she must contact our office in writing (email) no later than two days before the date of the scheduled contest so I may notify the school of your intent. Once the school has been notified of the planned action(s) to be taken by the official (s), the school will advise our office if they are able to provide adequate security. If the school decides the proposed action(s) by the official(s) risks crew or public safety, the official will be removed from the game as a precaution and we will re-assign the position to another official.
By this action, both First Amendment rights and safety issues are being protected and addressed. If you wish to share feedback on this topic, please do not hesitate to contact the SCHSL office immediately.
“The South Carolina High School League has been in existence for over 100 years…all while displaying a total respect and admiration to this country and the people who make it unique, generous and unbreakable. ALL people make the United States of America a family of many cultures and beliefs. It is the hope of the SCHSL that we continue to support one another while being proud Americans working as One Team. Athletics are meant to bring us together and highlight our strengths, skills and for lack of a better term, our hopes and dreams. We are truly better together,” states SCHSL Commissioner Jerome Singleton.

[jTheUmp]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Me, and who else?

The first one was a football official who threatened to fight a coach in the parking lot after a 9th grade (and yes, it was the official who issued the threat).

The second one was a baseball umpire who hung me out to dry on a potential third-strike checked swing (he was BU) because is back was turned and he "was talking to the first-base coach about the Lord" (his words). Turned what would've possibly been a 1-2-3 inning into 3 runs scored and a coach ejection.

[Scrapper1]

Originally Posted by Raymond

I would do absolutely nothing in regards to the player. It's none of my (our) business.

If an official left, I would consider him/her unprofessional and probably wouldn't work with that official again.

If an official informed his/her assignor that the he/she doesn't want to work games involving schools that make such gestures, I would respect that.

Thanks to everybody who replied. Ray's reply was first and pretty much mirrors my own thoughts exactly.

[UNIgiantslayers]

It seems inevitable that with so many officials all over the country at many different levels that somebody somewhere in stripes will take a knee or not come out for the anthem. I am split on how to feel about this. I am glad that all of the attention from these protests are sort of bringing to light the unfair treatment of POC by society as a whole, and in particular by those police departments. If you can't see the issues that they are highlighting, you are either very dense or purposely ignoring the incidents that happen. I think that those that see this as protesting the anthem or flag are missing the mark. I saw a great parallel drawn between this and Rosa Parks indicating that thinking these guys are protesting the flag and anthem is like saying Rosa was protesting public transportation. I think an official making this symbolic gesture would renew the attention that the issue has received over the past week or so and maybe help move our society in a better direction as we acknowledge these issues and try to remedy them.

On the other hand, I think that we are already a group that not many people like or have sympathy for during the game. I think if/when an official does this, he or she is likely to have a very rough game and probably a tough year due to the criticism that they would draw. I wouldn't want to be on that crew. With that being said, I would have a lot of respect for that person if they believe in this issue so much as to put their profession on the line. My hope is that if/when this person does it, they are doing it because they believe in the cause and not to be on the front page of ESPN. I'm fairly certain that the person would probably not be officiating next year, and would probably be taken off of assignments as well.

Those are my thoughts and ideas on how I would handle it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by UNIgiantslayers

It seems inevitable that with so many officials all over the country at many different levels that somebody somewhere in stripes will take a knee or not come out for the anthem. ...

I believe such an event occurred in a CIAA football game last year.

I had one supervisor address this subject last year in a preseason clinic. He stated we should not do this, not based on his beliefs or values, but because he thinks it could create safety issues.