Offensive Foul during FT

[Mregor]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

Side track:

Scenario: out of control shooter releases ball before crashing into defender with LGP. After the foul by the shooter, the ball falls through the net.

IIRC, it used to be that we would count the basket but still charge the common foul, possibly resulting in bonus free throws. I thought that had changed. But exception (a) would seem to say that the ball does not become dead on the charge by the shooter. Could someone be so kind as to explain the application in that scenario.

I was reading this scenario differently from the others who have already replied. A1 releases try, not an airborne shooter anymore, continues and knocks B2 to the ground. I suppose you could count the basket and B2 could shoot FTs if in the bonus. Not realistic but hey, it's the offseason and there isn't a lot to talk about.

[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I was reading this scenario differently from the others who have already replied. A1 releases try, not an airborne shooter anymore, continues and knocks B2 to the ground. I suppose you could count the basket and B2 could shoot FTs if in the bonus. Not realistic but hey, it's the offseason and there isn't a lot to talk about.

Are you saying that A1 has already returned to the ground when he knocks B2 down? Because releasing the try is what begins airborne shooter status, not ends it.

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by Mregor

I was reading this scenario differently from the others who have already replied. A1 releases try, not an airborne shooter anymore, continues and knocks B2 to the ground. I suppose you could count the basket and B2 could shoot FTs if in the bonus. Not realistic but hey, it's the offseason and there isn't a lot to talk about.

You're correct. Once AS status ends, the application becomes as that for anyone else who commits a common foul while a try is in flight.

You probably wouldn't see this often, but I could picture a perimeter shot where the shooter A1 returns to the floor and then busts it to follow his shot, knocking over B1 in the process before the ball goes in. In that case, count the goal and report the foul. Ball OOB to B or bonus FTs if applicable.

As was said before, calling a foul on the shooting team here should be as patient a whistle as possible. But if the contact rattles the whole building....well every once in a while you have to call those kind of fouls.


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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by so cal lurker

... out of control shooter releases ball before crashing into defender ...

Originally Posted by Mregor

A1 releases try, not an airborne shooter anymore, continues and knocks B2 to the ground.

4-1 AIRBORNE SHOOTER
ART. 1 An airborne shooter is a player who has released the ball on a try
for a goal or has tapped the ball and has not returned to the floor.
ART. 2 The airborne shooter is considered to be in the act of shooting.

4-20-6: A player-control foul is a common foul committed by a player while
he/she is in control of the ball or by an airborne shooter.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Mregor

A1 releases try, not an airborne shooter anymore, continues and knocks B2 to the ground.

Are you saying he's not an airborne shooter after he releases the shot or are you presenting a scenario where he returns to the floor and then charges into the defender?