2017-18 NFHS Comments, POE's

[crosscountry55]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

That is not much of a problem here or at least in my experience. We could use that line with just about anything.

Almost. I'm just saying there's something unique about IPFs, especially late in games. My experience is that what's observed by the official has to be pretty darn egregious for the assignor or camp clinician to support an IPF. The preferred result, even for the casual bear hug as exemplified in the POE, is typically a common foul and bonus FTs.

So....IMHO, generally speaking there is a disconnect between what the committee wants done and what assignors want done. This puts officials—whom the committee seems to want to blame a paucity in IPFs on—in a tough spot.


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[bucky]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

This puts officials—whom the committee seems to want to blame a paucity in IPFs on—in a tough spot.

Paucity? Wow, have not seen/used that in a long time, only a scantiness.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by crosscountry55

Almost. I'm just saying there's something unique about IPFs, especially late in games. My experience is that what's observed by the official has to be pretty darn egregious for the assignor or camp clinician to support an IPF. The preferred result, even for the casual bear hug as exemplified in the POE, is typically a common foul and bonus FTs.

So....IMHO, generally speaking there is a disconnect between what the committee wants done and what assignors want done. This puts officials—whom the committee seems to want to blame a paucity in IPFs on—in a tough spot.

That sounds like a local issue, which I am sure we all have to deal with on some level. I get what you are saying, but I think this is not a problem for everyone or even with this rule. But we could say that about other rules as well. Heck we had a state that told us about uniform things and hand-checking and coaching box stuff and had an assignor who basically wanted us to ignore that stuff or said, "In the ........ we are not calling that...." But that was one guy and I over the years have started to slowly not take games for him anymore. I got tired of having to compromise my feelings on rules for a place or conference that was not that spectacular in the first place. Now there are other assignors I work for that have no issues with our enforcing rules and they support you when you do. So this seems to me like something that might be accepted in some areas and others areas not so much.

Peace

[so cal lurker]

As a parent of a varsity player, I'm really curious to see what actually happens with IPFs next year. It seems to me that from time to time there is a focus and more IPFs are called, but then things drift back. The fouls at the end of the game seem so ingrained that it is really hard to change.