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Old Tue May 02, 2017, 10:48am
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And why not mention this: please don't give us any POE's without an associated rule change.
POE's usually have rules behind them already that people are not calling correctly.
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Old Tue May 02, 2017, 10:56am
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POE's usually have rules behind them already that people are not calling correctly.
I do not think POEs have much to do with what is called. I think they are used to emphasize what the actual rule is and is misunderstood. Coaches and players often think that certain things are legal that are not. The rulebook is for everyone, not just the officials. And we already know that coaches often contest things that we call that are actual rules we have addressed.

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Old Thu May 04, 2017, 11:16am
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POE's usually have rules behind them already that people are not calling correctly.
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I do not think POEs have much to do with what is called. I think they are used to emphasize what the actual rule is and is misunderstood.
Above the shoulders contact Point of Emphasis should be in the rulebook. Incidental contact? Common foul? Intentional foul? Flagrant foul?

2012-13 POE: Contact above the shoulders. With a continued emphasis on reducing concussions and decreasing excessive contact situations the committee determined that more guidance is needed for penalizing contact above the shoulders.
a. A player shall not swing his/her arm(s) or elbow(s) even without contacting an opponent. Excessive swinging of the elbows occurs when arms and elbows are swung about while using the shoulders as pivots, and the speed of the extended arms and elbows is in excess of the rest of the body as it rotates on the hips or on the pivot foot. Currently it is a violation in Rule 9 Section 13 Article.
b. Examples of illegal contact above the shoulders and resulting penalties.
1. Contact with a stationary elbow may be incidental or a common foul.
2. An elbow in movement but not excessive should be an intentional foul.
3. A moving elbow that is excessive can be either an intentional foul or flagrant personal foul.


The specificity of the POE doesn't' show up in the rulebook.
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