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Old Sat Apr 01, 2017, 09:24am
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1) She was hit in the throat

2) I gather none of you have been. If you had you'd know the reaction wasn't faked.
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Old Sat Apr 01, 2017, 10:02am
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1) She was hit in the throat

2) I gather none of you have been. If you had you'd know the reaction wasn't faked.
She was not hit in the throat like a punch. Yes I have been contacted in the head and neck area and did not react like that. And that is not the point. She IMO embellished the contact that normally happens in the course of any sport. They MSU player was just raising her arms as a receiver would be raising their arms and had some contact with the player. I see a lot more contact not get even a reaction and she acted like she was shot from the grassy knoll. It was not like the MSU player threw and elbow or pushed off. And if you watch enough basketball and certainly work enough basketball, players embellish contact all the time. Lebron James acts like this where he is barely touched. I have seen his reaction too and have the same reaction to his situations as I do to this UConn player. I am just glad this did not end up being the reason this game went to another OT or lost the game because of the way this was handled. I have also seen similar plays in NCAA Men's game called nothing or a common foul. FF to me was a bit much, but I do not act like I understand the NCAA Women's differences.

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Old Sat Apr 01, 2017, 11:29am
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She was not hit in the throat like a punch. Yes I have been contacted in the head and neck area and did not react like that. And that is not the point. She IMO embellished the contact that normally happens in the course of any sport. They MSU player was just raising her arms as a receiver would be raising their arms and had some contact with the player. I see a lot more contact not get even a reaction and she acted like she was shot from the grassy knoll. It was not like the MSU player threw and elbow or pushed off. And if you watch enough basketball and certainly work enough basketball, players embellish contact all the time. Lebron James acts like this where he is barely touched. I have seen his reaction too and have the same reaction to his situations as I do to this UConn player. I am just glad this did not end up being the reason this game went to another OT or lost the game because of the way this was handled. I have also seen similar plays in NCAA Men's game called nothing or a common foul. FF to me was a bit much, but I do not act like I understand the NCAA Women's differences.

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1) She was hit in the throat

2) I gather none of you have been. If you had you'd know the reaction wasn't faked.
Touched in the throat, yes. Hit in the throat, no.

As Jeff said, she simply raised her arms over her head to intercept the imminent pass.
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Old Sat Apr 01, 2017, 11:34pm
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Being that they were within the "window" to go look at the monitor and review the play, they were correct by doing so and although maybe the reaction to the contact was a bit much, by the way the NCAA rule is written, the crew was 100% correct in assessing a FF1.

The play that happened after the FT's and at 12.3 where both bodies went down (offense and defense), that no-call was surprising to me. . .
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 12:00am
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Yes I have been contacted in the head and neck area
Forcibly? Was targeting called?

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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 06:42pm
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Who is working the championship game?
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 06:57pm
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Dee Kantner, Tina Napier, Brenda Pantoja
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 07:03pm
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Dee Kanter of course.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 08:10pm
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Mattingly not getting the Final Four this year is surprising simply because she's worked it for x number of years in a row before this year.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 08:33pm
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Dang they are swallowing the whistles.
Same applied today, it seems, especially in the first half.

I don't watch much NCAAW, so I won't be terribly critical, but my general observation is that there were many contact no calls that I scarcely believe would have been no calls on the men's side. It almost seemed like there was a hesitance on the part of the crew to allow either team to get to the bonus too quickly in any given quarter.

On another note, I didn't catalogue the times, but I thought there were an inordinate number of questionable block/charge calls in the title game. In fact I can't recall any of them being called charges (there was an RA block in the second half---would like to see it again because I thought the drive started in the LDB---but that's as close as I recall any call coming to a charge).
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 08:45pm
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Yes, Mattingly noticeably absent. Joseph Vaszily has a nice run going.

https://phillyref.com/basketball/postseasonwomen.html
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 09:40pm
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Yes, Mattingly noticeably absent. Joseph Vaszily has a nice run going.

https://phillyref.com/basketball/postseasonwomen.html
She worked a Final Foul Semifinal. That is not too bad. But then again, how many in a row does she have?

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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 10:54pm
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She worked a Final Foul Semifinal. That is not too bad. But then again, how many in a row does she have?

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Mattingly did not work a Final Four game this year.
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Old Sun Apr 02, 2017, 11:45pm
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Mattingly did not work a Final Four game this year.
Rut got confused cuz the PhillyRef link is to the 2016 FF officials which does list Mattingly on a semi.
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