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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:08pm
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UCLA/UK, 17:50 left. Block/charge no-call.
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:23pm
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Nigel Hayes called for charge, about 4 minutes left in first half, looked like a botched call.
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:35pm
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16 minutes left, second half WI vs Florida, block/charge
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:39pm
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15 min left 2nd half phantom foul on happ
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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:46pm
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Need more specifics.

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Nigel Hayes called for charge, about 4 minutes left in first half, looked like a botched call.
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15 min left 2nd half phantom foul on happ
Specific time please. That these are too general.

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Old Fri Mar 24, 2017, 10:56pm
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In b4 Badgerfan2 comments about the PC called on Happ at 9:05 2nd half.

No, the RA does not matter on this play as Greg Gard was arguing. It was a primary defender who established position outside the arc and moved backwards to maintain his legal position.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 06:01pm
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Specific time please. That these are too general.

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Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.

One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:18pm
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Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.
I was watching the game and got this play. I will post it later.

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One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?
I did not think this was a foul. If the contact in incidental, that means it is not a foul. That is what incidental contact actually means.

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Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.


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Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?


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One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds.
It's amazing how fandom can cause people to hallucinate.

He tripped ... but he wasn't tripped. Falling down is falling down.
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Wow, what a great description of the play.

And is there going to be a video request for every block/charge call in the tournament?
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Wow, what a great description of the play.

And is there going to be a video request for every block/charge call in the tournament?
I doubt it since Wisconsin is now out. His only posts, ever, were about players where Wisconsin didn't get the call.
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This is a good one. Wisconsin/Florida. Just before 15:06 2nd Half.

FL try in flight. W22 commits pushing foul during rebounding action under the basket, so ball remains live. Then F12 appears to commit offensive BI by getting his hand entangled in the net while the ball was on/within the basket. The try ends up being successful.

Crew gets together to discuss. It could very well be that they just weren't sure who's hand ended up in the net because W22's was in the neighborhood as well. But replay clearly showed that it was F12's hand. In any case, they counted the basket, which I believe was incorrect.

Should have been wipe the basket, but then give the ball to FL for a throw-in as a result of the common foul.

After the lengthy discussion, the crew forgot who the initial foul was on, so they went to the monitor to confirm W22. In the subsequent explanation to the TV crew (which I like that they do, by the way), it was even asked about the pulling on the net, and the official correctly stated, "no, that part of the call is not reviewable."

So this time Rule 11 was applied correctly, but the inability to apply common sense with replay review here gave FL two free points.

Yeah, I definitely think some major tweaking to Rule 11 is in order after this year.
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Old Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:41am
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This is a good one. Wisconsin/Florida. Just before 15:06 2nd Half.

FL try in flight. W22 commits pushing foul during rebounding action under the basket, so ball remains live. Then F12 appears to commit offensive BI by getting his hand entangled in the net while the ball was on/within the basket. The try ends up being successful.

Crew gets together to discuss. It could very well be that they just weren't sure who's hand ended up in the net because W22's was in the neighborhood as well. But replay clearly showed that it was F12's hand. In any case, they counted the basket, which I believe was incorrect.

Should have been wipe the basket, but then give the ball to FL for a throw-in as a result of the common foul.

After the lengthy discussion, the crew forgot who the initial foul was on, so they went to the monitor to confirm W22. In the subsequent explanation to the TV crew (which I like that they do, by the way), it was even asked about the pulling on the net, and the official correctly stated, "no, that part of the call is not reviewable."

So this time Rule 11 was applied correctly, but the inability to apply common sense with replay review here gave FL two free points.

Yeah, I definitely think some major tweaking to Rule 11 is in order after this year.
I think your assumption about what they were talking about was incorrect. I do not think the were talking about the net at all. I think they were talking about how to administer the foul or if there was a reason (rules wise) to negate the foul. The questions I think they were considering was does the basket count? Does the foul get penalized? If so, how. I think they went to the monitor to see either who fouled or who was fouled. Ultimately, they got all of that right.

As for common sense relating to the BI, I see hands touch the net every game that go uncalled. It is just one of those things that is often passed on. You may or may not agree, but it happens too often to be just missed.
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