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Badgerfan2 Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:23pm

Nigel Hayes called for charge, about 4 minutes left in first half, looked like a botched call.

Badgerfan2 Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:35pm

16 minutes left, second half WI vs Florida, block/charge

Badgerfan2 Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:39pm

15 min left 2nd half phantom foul on happ

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:46pm

Need more specifics.
 
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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003369)
Nigel Hayes called for charge, about 4 minutes left in first half, looked like a botched call.

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003370)
16 minutes left, second half WI vs Florida, block/charge

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003371)
15 min left 2nd half phantom foul on happ

Specific time please. That these are too general.

Peace

crosscountry55 Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:56pm

This is a good one. Wisconsin/Florida. Just before 15:06 2nd Half.

FL try in flight. W22 commits pushing foul during rebounding action under the basket, so ball remains live. Then F12 appears to commit offensive BI by getting his hand entangled in the net while the ball was on/within the basket. The try ends up being successful.

Crew gets together to discuss. It could very well be that they just weren't sure who's hand ended up in the net because W22's was in the neighborhood as well. But replay clearly showed that it was F12's hand. In any case, they counted the basket, which I believe was incorrect.

Should have been wipe the basket, but then give the ball to FL for a throw-in as a result of the common foul.

After the lengthy discussion, the crew forgot who the initial foul was on, so they went to the monitor to confirm W22. In the subsequent explanation to the TV crew (which I like that they do, by the way), it was even asked about the pulling on the net, and the official correctly stated, "no, that part of the call is not reviewable."

So this time Rule 11 was applied correctly, but the inability to apply common sense with replay review here gave FL two free points.

Yeah, I definitely think some major tweaking to Rule 11 is in order after this year.

AremRed Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:56pm

In b4 Badgerfan2 comments about the PC called on Happ at 9:05 2nd half.

No, the RA does not matter on this play as Greg Gard was arguing. It was a primary defender who established position outside the arc and moved backwards to maintain his legal position.

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:33pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1003350)
UNC/Butler
6:49 of the first half
C calls a travel from behind the Butler player. Looks as if the ball was knocked loose by a bump from a defender.

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Peace

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:37pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1003351)
Baylor/S. Carolina on TBS
6:49 left in the first half (lol same time as the other game)
Is the contact from behind during the S. Carolina transition worthy of a foul? If so, which official should be responsible?

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Peace

crosscountry55 Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:39pm

This is cool. WI/FL going deep into the rule and case books tonight!

Jump ball to start overtime, common foul on WI before the AP arrow is established, bonus rule in effect. Set the arrow to WI when the ball is at the disposal of the FL free thrower. Officials spend way too much time explaining things to the coaches and table. Eventually the PA announcer explains the rule in crystal clear language, and still the announcers are confused.

No, JRut doesn't need to clip this. I just mention it because it's cool how sometimes stuff you read about but think will never happen in your game....happens.

Don't be that official that likes to boast at camps, "I'm not a rules guy, but...." Those guys aren't advancing in the tournament this year.*

*Edit: That's a general statement not aimed at the crew in this game, who actually I think have done an awesome job tonight (though I wish as a WI fan they hadn't missed that FL BI earlier because I'd be in bed already).

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:40pm

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Originally Posted by AremRed (Post 1003352)
Don't need video of these plays, just commenting.

South Carolina/Baylor

6:09 first half -- John Gaffney signals two shots on a 1 and 1, stands on the court next to defender. Realizes it is supposed to be 1 and 1, backs out of lane. No one goes to rebound on the release but thankfully the shot is made.

I saw another play Mike Roberts had earlier where it looked like he was about to call an illegal screen on South Carolina but then pointed at the Baylor player.

Not the smoothest first half for this crew.

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Peace

Fuelrider Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:41pm

Florida-Wisconsin
 
Beginning of OT off the tip, Foul called no team or player control Florida goes to free throw line arrow is switched? What just happened?

JRutledge Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:44pm

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Originally Posted by SC Official (Post 1003353)
2:50 first half Baylor/SC. Transition block call.

What did the defender do wrong?

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Peace

Nevadaref Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:54pm

FL/Wisconsin
4.0 seconds left in OT
Leon of FL called for a foul on drive by Hayes of WI.
What did the defender do wrong?

Edit: Justice as FL wins on a buzzer-beater 3pt shot.

Fuelrider Fri Mar 24, 2017 11:55pm

When I re watched he tried to get back in position after being beat and tripped the offensive player on the shot. Just what I saw.

blindzebra Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:01am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1003383)
FL/Wisconsin
4.0 seconds left in OT
Leon of FL called for a foul on drive by Hayes of WI.
What did the defender do wrong?

Edit: Justice as FL wins on a buzzer-beater 3pt shot.


Verne reffed OT like he didn't want a double OT. There were several iffy calls going Wisconsin's way the last 2 minutes, but fate stepped in and the correct team won.


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