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RefRich Sat Mar 25, 2017 02:13pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1003429)
I did not say anything about penalizing him if he was legal as he was in this play. But handoff screens are common and usually result in nothing, this was just an example. But it is a screen a the same rules apply. If he had kept coming forward and knocked down the defender, then I would have advocated for a foul. And that is why I think they showed a replay of the situation to show that the Wisconsin player was legal.

Peace

Got it, thanks for the explanation.

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 02:17pm

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Originally Posted by RefRich (Post 1003430)
Got it, thanks for the explanation.

Np.

Peace

Camron Rust Sat Mar 25, 2017 02:22pm

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Originally Posted by RefRich (Post 1003427)
He was going to pass off the ball but was run into by the Florida player first. Therefore there is no attempted screen. You can't penalize him because of what he was going to do but by what the defender did prior to any handoff.

I don't disagree with your interpretation of the rule.

Whether he has the ball or not, it is still a screen. That said, it was a legal screen....good no call.

thedewed Sat Mar 25, 2017 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1003389)
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/S6_7A9KavL0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

there are plays where b/c opportunities should be no calls, and this is one of them. if the defender is there and set in time, but the ballhandler gets his torso past, then it can be a no call. You sure shouldn't call a block, as a defender that is set in legal guarding position has no obligation to move out of the way. This particular play that is best result, next best would be charge.

BillyMac Sat Mar 25, 2017 02:53pm

Am I Right Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. ???
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1003432)
Np.

Young guns, like JRutledge, say "No problem". Old farts like me, say, "You're welcome". Ain't it funny how language changes right before our eyes (or our ears)?

Note: Please don't tell my Mom, or Mr. Baumgartner, my high school sophomore English teacher, that I used "ain't" in a sentence.

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 03:23pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 1003438)
Young guns, like JRutledge, say "No problem". Old farts like me, say, "You're welcome". Ain't it funny how language changes right before our eyes (or our ears)?

Note: Please don't tell my Mom, or Mr. Baumgartner, my high school sophomore English teacher, that I used "ain't" in a sentence.

Nomination for the "Doing Too Much" Countdown!!!

Peace

SC Official Sat Mar 25, 2017 05:03pm

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Originally Posted by thedewed (Post 1003437)
there are plays where b/c opportunities should be no calls, and this is one of them. if the defender is there and set in time, but the ballhandler gets his torso past, then it can be a no call. You sure shouldn't call a block, as a defender that is set in legal guarding position has no obligation to move out of the way. This particular play that is best result, next best would be charge.

I stopped reading when I saw this word.

Badgerfan2 Sat Mar 25, 2017 06:01pm

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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 1003372)
Specific time please. That these are too general.

Peace

Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.

One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 07:18pm

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003452)
Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.

I was watching the game and got this play. I will post it later.

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003452)
One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?

I did not think this was a foul. If the contact in incidental, that means it is not a foul. That is what incidental contact actually means.

Peace

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 07:53pm

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003452)
Sorry about that. Looks like you've already got two of them. The first one was called an offensive foul on Nigel Hayes at 4:25 of the first half.

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/gUA9U7lMAds" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 08:00pm

More random
 
Play #7:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/nanxmohwcdk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #8:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/bUeyWwI-YpE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #9

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/X4mfDnWAWgM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Play #10

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/PxaHCXHINP4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

JRutledge Sat Mar 25, 2017 08:11pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003452)
Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds. If it is incidental is it not still a foul?

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/boMJMpNmMzM" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Peace

ODog Sat Mar 25, 2017 09:34pm

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Originally Posted by Badgerfan2 (Post 1003452)
One other one - Khalil Iverson #21 appears to be tripped by #13 of florida, 9:34 wnd half Ball called out of bounds.

It's amazing how fandom can cause people to hallucinate.

He tripped ... but he wasn't tripped. Falling down is falling down.


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