Block/Charge How do you see the secondary defender on this play?

[BionicBanana]

Curious to see how you view this play. I feel PC, and also should have been C's whistle, curious to your input.

[Nevadaref]

Same as the other play you posted.
Should have been a PC foul and this is now the Lead's call.
Five years ago this was the C's call, but the mechanics have changed.
The reason for the change is that the C cannot watch both the drive with any defenders near the dribbler AND find the help-defender stepping in front attempting to draw the charge. The C simply cannot know if the defender obtained position in time while striving to observe several aspects of the drive such as bumps/handchecking/traveling. Therefore, the mechanics have now shifted responsibility of the help-defender to the Lead.

[bob jenkins]

Much more the L's call than the other play.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Much more the L's call than the other play.

True, but let's make the point that it isn't because of where the help-defender started or the crash happened, but rather because there is much more happening on-ball for the C to watch in this play.

[Rich]

L looked surprised. Happens when you're not officiating the defensw.

L's call, same as the other play.

I'm guessing the OP is not swayed by our posts, just like in the last thread.

[BionicBanana]

Originally Posted by Rich

L looked surprised. Happens when you're not officiating the defensw.

L's call, same as the other play.

I'm guessing the OP is not swayed by our posts, just like in the last thread.

I can see this play as L's call, double whistle no problem with C taking it to table either. Other play I do think C needed whistle for sure, double whistle L definitely yields to C.

[bucky]

IMO, looks PC all day long. I can't figure out why C was nodding in apparent agreement. That tells me they both thought it was a block.