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Old Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:25pm
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He still sees it as the C's whistle though. That's a problem. The message on the new way to handle secondary defenders during drives to the basket isn't getting communicated. This is a training issue. I wonder what state he is in.
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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 05:23am
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He still sees it as the C's whistle though. That's a problem. The message on the new way to handle secondary defenders during drives to the basket isn't getting communicated. This is a training issue. I wonder what state he is in.
I appreciate the insight and feedback Nevada.
I am the L, just stumbled across the video on youtube, game from last year. I was in no position to make the call, hence terrible miss. I definitely was expecting a whistle from C. Its in IL same as:
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Since the offense "beat" the primary defender so far outside and so far before the contact, C could have had a look / call on this.
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I do not know why the C did not have a call on this. And I do not think this is the L's call all the way. Yes they can have a call here, but this to me is the C's call. And other than philosophy of who has this call, the C should have a play that originated in his or her area. Peace
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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 08:52am
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Did something happen to video? All I see is a white box. Videos in other threads work for me.
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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 12:26pm
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Did something happen to video? All I see is a white box. Videos in other threads work for me.
Same with me. Must be my internet browser or something.
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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:09pm
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I appreciate the insight and feedback Nevada.
I am the L, just stumbled across the video on youtube, game from last year. I was in no position to make the call, hence terrible miss. I definitely was expecting a whistle from C. Its in IL same as:
First, it takes guts and courage to post video of yourself. You obviously desire to improve. If you are willing to take the information provided by several of the posters here, even though it could be harsh, you will get better.

There is naturally some sifting of information which must be done on a public forum such as this and you will get conflicting advice. You will need to select what is best for you and the area in which you work.

I happen to agree with Rich, BNR, and Multiple Sports (who posted in your other thread on this). We believe quite strongly in the new method of having the Lead make the decisions on secondary defenders (help-defenders). I've seen numerous video clips to prove why it is better. On the other hand, Rut and Bob Jenkins have proven themselves to be quality officials over the years too and present a different take.

I will tell you that I am the instructor for over 300 HS officials in CA and get most of my 3-person information from NCAA officials Tony Padilla and Mike Reed. You will see both of them in the NCAA tournament this coming week.
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Old Mon Mar 13, 2017, 03:15pm
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I agree with others on the general guideline of giving the L first crack at plays involving secondary defenders in the paint.

Also agree on the glaring need for movement from both the L and the C, and the T as well for that matter.

I think far too often we focus on a missed call without really examining why its missed. IMO this was a miss caused by the L not using the close down position and pinching the paint and the C not moving at all to maintain a look at the play.

L's call but the C could have had a whistle too. And at the very least, should have been in better position to see the play.
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