Parent blows up

[BigT]

Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB

What did the coach do in the OP? Coach can come onto the floor to tend to an injured player. Unless the coach wants to make smart remarks to you instead of tensing to the player, you can then whack coach.

Originally Posted by BigT

Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

OK, I made a bad assumption. I assumed the coach came out to berate the officials. If he just came out to take care of his player, I've got nothing on him.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

OK, I made a bad assumption. I assumed the coach came out to berate the officials. If he just came out to take care of his player, I've got nothing on him.

KK,

That was my fault. Cant believe the things that happen in AAU here and got typing too fast.

[LRZ]

FWIW, I'm in the "kick out and ban the parent, don't penalize the [probably mortified] kid" school.

[BigT]

I was in the camp of don't punish the kid. After having a parent wanting to assault me in the parking lot last month and the City Attorney not wanting to do anything I am all for the kid leaving with the parent. That feels like it will stop the behavior. Just leaving a gym where they hate the referees anyway doesnt feel like it will change any behavior.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigT

Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

[bas2456]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

I'm glad that last part works in your area. Seems like a harsh punishment for a kid that (probably) did nothing wrong

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

Understand that this isn't my rule. It was created by the people who run the local AAU tournaments because they had too many problems with parent behavior. All of the AAU games are pay-to-play, so they simply decided to have the kid lose the playing time that the parents paid for as penalty for the poor actions. It was actually a brilliant idea as it hits the people in the pocket book. I can tell you that parent behavior improved greatly after the rule was implemented.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

And I don't do this for the kids (even though all the benevolent parents and coaches do). I personally like the rule.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

And I don't do this for the kids (even though all the benevolent parents and coaches do). I personally like the rule.

The entire free world knows you dont do this for the kids...isnt necessary for you to repeat it twice a week...As for the rule, i'm sure it works but i think tossing the idiot parent and suspending/banning him from games would work just as well.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The entire free world knows you dont do this for the kids...isnt necessary for you to repeat it twice a week...As for the rule, i'm sure it works but i think tossing the idiot parent and suspending/banning him from games would work just as well.

Very few of us do it for the kids ("for the kids" is the single phrase that makes me nearly vomit) but I think his point is valid here and appropriate.

I'm not calling the team T (unless directed to do so) here, but I like the rule that sends players out with their parents when mom or dad gets tossed. AAU can be a horrible environment for officials, so draconian measures aren't really out of place.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

Very few of us do it for the kids ("for the kids" is the single phrase that makes me nearly vomit) but I think his point is valid here and appropriate.

I'm not calling the team T (unless directed to do so) here, but I like the rule that sends players out with their parents when mom or dad gets tossed. AAU can be a horrible environment for officials, so draconian measures aren't really out of place.

Ok. In earlier post you also indicated not to punish the kid. Frankly, I tend to want to punish the bad actor. That's my position and i like what BNR mentioned…security and handcuffs.

Also, i don't think why we do what we do or who we do it for or "for the kids" has anything to do with it. I know everybody has different reasons for doing it. I have many reasons for doing it. I just think bad actors should be punished/barred etc. I'm not a fan of guilt by association when one person isn't able to choose who he's associated with… That doesn't have anything to do with why i'm there or your there etc.

I understand the position and if its truly gotten that bad then that may be all that's left...