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BigT Tue Feb 21, 2017 03:58pm

Parent blows up
 
AAU 8th grade boys game. Good referees. W11 goes up out of control and hits defender and falls badly on his ankle. PC called, coach comes out, parent comes from the stands. Dad takes some cheap shots with a final F.. you comment.

What would you do? T the team? Site management remove parent? Both? Nothing...?

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Feb 21, 2017 04:03pm

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 1000817)
AAU 8th grade boys game. Good referees. W11 goes up out of control and hits defender and falls badly on his ankle. PC called, coach comes out, parent comes from the stands. Dad takes some cheap shots with a final F.. you comment.

What would you do? T the team? Site management remove parent? Both? Nothing...?

This is a "had to be there" sitch, but the way you describe it, I'm whacking the coach based on his own reaction. I'm seriously considering a Team T for the behavior of the parent, but that may be mitigated if someone from the team or game management was making an effort to stop him or get him out of there. And we are DEFINITELY not continuing until the parent has been removed from the gym.

SNIPERBBB Tue Feb 21, 2017 04:20pm

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Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes (Post 1000818)
This is a "had to be there" sitch, but the way you describe it, I'm whacking the coach based on his own reaction. I'm seriously considering a Team T for the behavior of the parent, but that may be mitigated if someone from the team or game management was making an effort to stop him or get him out of there. And we are DEFINITELY not continuing until the parent has been removed from the gym.



What did the coach do in the OP? Coach can come onto the floor to tend to an injured player. Unless the coach wants to make smart remarks to you instead of tensing to the player, you can then whack coach.

UNIgiantslayers Tue Feb 21, 2017 04:34pm

AAU parent on the floor? I'd consider suspending the game and leaving the floor until my next scheduled game. My guess is the rest of the parents are going to be yelling about it for the rest of the game, and I wouldn't exactly feel very safe.

BigT Tue Feb 21, 2017 04:45pm

Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

Adam Tue Feb 21, 2017 04:53pm

Just have the parent removed, don't punish the kid and the team for this.

The F-bomb is irrelevant from the parent, because as soon as he came down to berate the officials, he's leaving. Site management needs to be on top of it, though, and the officials shouldn't even have to address the situation.

WhistlesAndStripes Tue Feb 21, 2017 05:18pm

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB (Post 1000820)
What did the coach do in the OP? Coach can come onto the floor to tend to an injured player. Unless the coach wants to make smart remarks to you instead of tensing to the player, you can then whack coach.

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 1000823)
Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

OK, I made a bad assumption. I assumed the coach came out to berate the officials. If he just came out to take care of his player, I've got nothing on him.

BlueDevilRef Tue Feb 21, 2017 07:10pm

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 1000824)
Just have the parent removed, don't punish the kid and the team for this.



The F-bomb is irrelevant from the parent, because as soon as he came down to berate the officials, he's leaving. Site management needs to be on top of it, though, and the officials shouldn't even have to address the situation.



Agreed.
But to be fair, every complex around here where they play travel ball has at least four courts going on at same time with one site manager. It's generally up to the officials to police it. Most of the time it's simple enough to tell people to leave but I'm sure we have all had to delay games waiting for some idiot to leave. Our sites are pretty good at taking care of things and backing officials if it comes to ejecting someone.

deecee Tue Feb 21, 2017 07:44pm

8th Grade AAU ball, parent is gone for this and team is assessed a T. Teach em young that this behavior is unacceptable. I may pass on the T IF the coach or someone else from the team was trying to deal with the parent.

In my AAU experience I learned that you shouldn't take crap from ANYONE and you deal with it quickly, punitively and move on. By year #2 on the circuit I had enough of a rep that parents who knew my tolerance would police "new" coaches and parents. My favorite moment was when a new coach stepped out of line and I T'd him up and a mom from the other side of the gym yelled out "I told you he wasn't gonna take your nonsense."

Nevadaref Tue Feb 21, 2017 09:04pm

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Originally Posted by BigT (Post 1000823)
Coach did nothing but take care of the kid. Dad is the only one going at the referees and the only one F bombing.

Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

bas2456 Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:22pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1000832)
Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

I'm glad that last part works in your area. Seems like a harsh punishment for a kid that (probably) did nothing wrong

Raymond Tue Feb 21, 2017 11:38pm

AAU complex I work at, if a Coach gets ejected security is there quickly to escort him out the building. They point to their handcuffs when they need to deal with fans.

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BigCat Wed Feb 22, 2017 01:21am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 1000832)
Parent ejection, Team technical foul, and in my area we have a rule that if a parent gets tossed the kid leaves with him. The last part was put in a few years ago and really helps control these fools.

I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

Nevadaref Wed Feb 22, 2017 02:15am

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Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 1000839)
I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

Understand that this isn't my rule. It was created by the people who run the local AAU tournaments because they had too many problems with parent behavior. All of the AAU games are pay-to-play, so they simply decided to have the kid lose the playing time that the parents paid for as penalty for the poor actions. It was actually a brilliant idea as it hits the people in the pocket book. I can tell you that parent behavior improved greatly after the rule was implemented.

deecee Wed Feb 22, 2017 07:23am

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Originally Posted by BigCat (Post 1000839)
I'm sure that works most of the time BUT...I'd ask you to remember kids don't get to choose their parents....

And I don't do this for the kids (even though all the benevolent parents and coaches do). I personally like the rule.


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