Going out of bounds: 9-3

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by wyo96

I cannot find the rule reference (or case play) for not calling a violation when a player goes out of bounds when bumped.

A1 is running the baseline, gets a little incidental contact that causes him to take a step or 2 out of bounds, comes back in and catches the pass. I know this is not a violation, but 9-3-3 just says "A player shall not leave the court for an unauthorized reason".

Is there a past interp I am missing, or is just applying the judgement that contact makes it "authorized"? Can someone direct me to the correct place?

Had a coach make a big deal about it this weekend.

The player did not leave the court "voluntarily" is the word used in case plays. If i shoot layup and continue OOB because of momentum i have not left court for unauthorized reason. 7.1.1b and a few others in that area.

A player bumped OOB is not voluntarily leaving..and thus "unauthorized."

[Adam]

"Authorized reason" is not really defined, but it's generally understood as "on purpose" (with some other requirements as well). Don't go looking for reasons to call it, as it should pretty much call itself, and you're not going to want to call it even when it does.

If this situation applied, as UNI notes, you should get the foul on that bump.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BigCat

The player did not leave the court "voluntarily" is the word used in case plays. If i shoot layup and continue OOB because of momentum i have not left court for unauthorized reason. 7.1.1b and a few others in that area.

A player bumped OOB is not voluntarily leaving..and thus "unauthorized."

I would be careful about voluntarily. Momentum is the natural result of a voluntary action. The player voluntarily chose to take a layup that would carry them OOB after releasing the shot.

It is close, but not really accurate.

Originally Posted by Adam

"Authorized reason" is not really defined, but it's generally understood as "on purpose" (with some other requirements as well). Don't go looking for reasons to call it, as it should pretty much call itself, and you're not going to want to call it even when it does.

If this situation applied, as UNI notes, you should get the foul on that bump.

This would be closer, IMO.

It is a violation when player chooses (or volunteers) to go OOB as an independent act.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

It is a violation when player chooses (or volunteers) to go OOB as an independent act.

I like this distinction. It verbalizes the way we approach it. Otherwise, a player leaping out of bounds to "save" the ball would be considered to be violating the rule. That's obviously not what the rule is meant to address.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I would be careful about voluntarily. Momentum is the natural result of a voluntary action. The player voluntarily chose to take a layup that would carry them OOB after releasing the shot.

It is close, but not really accurate.



This would be closer, IMO.

It is a violation when player chooses (or volunteers) to go OOB as an independent act.

Voluntarily means "own free will." case plays say momentum is not voluntary. Therefore not unauthorized. I might be able to choose better words but I use, and always recommend to others that they use, the words from the book. Here, the book uses voluntary/voluntarily. I think if I was sitting at a table with folks having 10 minute discussion I'd get to describing it as independent act etc. Telling a coach in 5 seconds I'm going to say " he didn't leave "voluntarily." Look it up rule 7 case book."

[BillyMac]

9.3.3 SITUATION A: A1 receives a pass while in the restricted area of the lane.
A1 passes the ball to A2 outside the three-point line. In order to get the three-second
count stopped, A1 steps directly out of bounds under A's basket. RULING:
A1 is charged with a violation for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
(9-7)

9.3.3 SITUATION B: A1 and A2 set a double screen near the end line. A3 intentionally
goes out of bounds outside the end line to have his/her defender detained
by the double screen. RULING: The official shall call a violation on A3 as soon as
he/she steps out of bounds. The ball is awarded to Team B at a designated spot
nearest to where the violation occurred.

9.3.3 SITUATION C: A1 and A2 set a double screen near the end line. B3 intentionally
goes out of bounds outside the end line to avoid being detained by A1 and
A2. Just as B3 goes out of bounds, A3's try is in flight. RULING: B3 is called for
a leaving-the-floor violation. Team A will receive the ball out of bounds at a spot
nearest to where the violation occurred. Since the violation is on the defense, the
ball does not become dead until the try has ended. If the try is successful, it will
count. (6-7-9 Exception d)

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

9.3.3 SITUATION A: A1 receives a pass while in the restricted area of the lane.
A1 passes the ball to A2 outside the three-point line. In order to get the three-second
count stopped, A1 steps directly out of bounds under A's basket. RULING:
A1 is charged with a violation for leaving the court for an unauthorized reason.
(9-7)

9.3.3 SITUATION B: A1 and A2 set a double screen near the end line. A3 intentionally
goes out of bounds outside the end line to have his/her defender detained
by the double screen. RULING: The official shall call a violation on A3 as soon as
he/she steps out of bounds. The ball is awarded to Team B at a designated spot
nearest to where the violation occurred.

9.3.3 SITUATION C: A1 and A2 set a double screen near the end line. B3 intentionally
goes out of bounds outside the end line to avoid being detained by A1 and
A2. Just as B3 goes out of bounds, A3's try is in flight. RULING: B3 is called for
a leaving-the-floor violation. Team A will receive the ball out of bounds at a spot
nearest to where the violation occurred. Since the violation is on the defense, the
ball does not become dead until the try has ended. If the try is successful, it will
count. (6-7-9 Exception d)

Go to 7.1.1 and look at those plays.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

Go to 7.1.1 and look at those plays.

7.1.1 SITUATION B: A1 blocks a pass near the end line. The ball falls to the
floor inbounds, but A1, who is off balance, steps off the court. A1 returns
inbounds, secures control of the ball and dribbles. RULING: Legal. A1 did not
leave the court voluntarily and did not have control of the ball when he/she did.
This situation is similar to one in which A1 makes a try from under the basket and
momentum carries A1 off the court. If the try is unsuccessful, A1 may come back
onto the court and regain control since A1 did not leave the court voluntarily and
did not have control of the ball when he/she did.

7.1.1 SITUATION C: A1 blocks a pass near the sideline and the ball goes into
A1’s front court. A1’s momentum carries him/her out of bounds. He/she immediately
returns inbounds, secures control of the ball, dribbles, shoots, and scores.
RULING: Legal. (4-35-1a; 7-1-2; 9-3)

7.1.1 SITUATION D: A1 jumps from inbounds to retrieve an errant pass near a
boundary line. A1 catches the ball while in the air and tosses it back to the court.
A1 lands out of bounds and (a) is the first to touch the ball after returning
inbounds; (b) returns inbounds and immediately dribbles the ball; or (c) picks up
the ball after returning to the court and then begins a dribble. RULING: Legal in (a) and (b). Illegal in (c) as the controlled toss of the ball to the court by A1 constitutes
the start of a dribble, dribbling a second time after picking up the ball is
an illegal dribble violation. (4-15-5; 4-15-6d; 4-35; 9-5)