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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:17pm
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Not sure an explanation is necessary, but if you feel that it is, in this case the explanation is clearly that: "My partner had a better look at it, coach."
and when the coach says....

"But by rule this is a double foul" .....


your response is ??
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:21pm
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and when the coach says....

"But by rule this is a double foul" .....


your response is ??
We want to screw one of you.. could you give us 5 minutes to decide who was a dumnut and we will get back to you...
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:27pm
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and when the coach says....

"But by rule this is a double foul" .....


your response is ??
Are we talking NFHS? "No, it isn't."
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:42pm
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Are we talking NFHS? "No, it isn't."
Are you trolling us or being serious?
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 01:51pm
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Are you trolling us or being serious?
Absolutely serious. We have debated this multiple times over the years. Yes, the famous case play tells us how to proceed when this call is made. But the question is when this is necessary. The case says one official "rules" one thing and the other the opposite. Nothing says that either official cannot change his "ruling" at any point before it is reported. Nothing about signals in the case play, preliminary or otherwise. I was advised to take my argument to a higher power, so I did. Sent an email to the editor of the NFHS books and she agreed with me, along with my assignor and the supervisor of officials in my state.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:05pm
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Sent an email to the editor of the NFHS books and she agreed with me, along with my assignor and the supervisor of officials in my state.
She did not simply agree with you. She stated a position and you did not inform her of the conflict to that position (according to your posting her). She gave you a position of a level she came from, which might have been correct for that level, but was not for the level she took over. And she also did not change anything as in the current book the interpretation or language has not at all changed. Again, I do not know what your supervisor of your state does, if I recall they had a mechanic that no one in the country ever did with their 2 person system based on what someone said that once was in the NF Rules Editor position. So what your local state does is great, but then make that clear. No person in my state has taken that position and this situation has come up multiple times since we had that conversation about what Mrs. Wynn apparently responded to you.

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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:11pm
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She did not simply agree with you. She stated a position and you did not inform her of the conflict to that position (according to your posting her).
I have no idea what this means.

This is a quote from her email:

Ruling a double foul on a block/charge would not be the thing to do.


I don't know how much more plain it can be.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2017, 02:26pm
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and you didn't have the guts to challenge her...... (it's not the first time she was wrong)

that makes it worse

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