At high school level, do you allow assistant coaches to stand and yell at officials?

[pillsburrydoboi]

At high school level, do you allow assistant coaches to stand and yell at officials?

[Adam]

No. To both. They are not allowed to stand. And they are not allowed to yell at officials while sitting.

Doing one or the other will get a warning from me, to the head coach, the first time. Second time is a T.

Doing both at the same time will likely not get a warning, just the T.

[BigT]

Originally Posted by adam

no. To both. They are not allowed to stand. And they are not allowed to yell at officials while sitting.

Doing one or the other will get a warning from me, to the head coach, the first time. Second time is a t.

Doing both at the same time will likely not get a warning, just the t.

+1

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

They are not allowed to stand.

Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.

Billy, even for you that's a silly response. He can also stand during timeouts, halftime, and if he raises his hand and says "Mother, may I?"

[JRutledge]

I think people mix up this conversation. Arguing with me about a call is not what an assistant gets the rope to do. Asking me a question during a timeout where there might be some information passed, OK. But I am not having a deep conversation with many assistants about anything. I do not like talking twice to a coaching staff when the head coach is the mouth piece of his or her program. I give the HC much more leeway to discuss things. I am also not having 2 or 3 conversations at once. So I will tell the HC that and make that clear.

Also what gets on my nerves is when officials say, "Assistants will be head coaches one day....blah...blah.....blah...." Well then they will learn when they get a head coach why I only want to talk to them. Again you can be nice to everyone and still make it clear I need to talk to the HC.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.

Originally Posted by Rich

Billy, even for you that's a silly response. He can also stand during timeouts, halftime, and if he raises his hand and says "Mother, may I?"

Rich is right, Billy. This is just goofy, given the obvious context. It's right up there with "coaches don't call timeouts, they request them" and getting hung up on "endline" vs "baseline."

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Adam

Rich is right, Billy. This is just goofy, given the obvious context. It's right up there with "coaches don't call timeouts, they request them" and getting hung up on "endline" vs "baseline."

Endline or baseline? I'm given to assume thems fightn words round these here parts.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

... the obvious context ...

The context is very obvious, and the statements to not allow assistant coaches to stand and complain are very true, but simple statements like, "They are not allowed to stand" can lead to some basketball myths, and as many here on the Forum know, I hate such myths.

Also. What rule basis do we have for allowing head coaches more latitude to complain than assistant coaches? I get the no standing part, it's in the rules, but what about the complaining part?

[Raymond]

At no level do I allow that. And at any level where a head coach is doing that, he will be addressed

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[RefsNCoaches]

Is said AC on the bench or in the stands?

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

At no level do I allow that.

This.

[tnolan]

negative.
but how about a productive discussion about dealing with assistants...
we were discussing this today and i'm not sure of the OP's reasoning for asking, but there is a big gray area with assistant coaches.

i'd like to think that most have a job to do, else they wouldn't be there, and if approached in a kindly manner, with a legitimate question...i want to believe that they are asking for the benefit of the team and head coach while he/she could be busy coaching or instructing in a timeout. in cases like this, i think a lot of officials are quick to treat them like crap just because they are assistants and don't give them the time of day.
but obviously, there is zero to no tolerance for assistants that want to try to officiate or berate officials from the bench as the OP asked. but in those cases, sometimes officials can go the opposite way and completely ignore that because of the fact that they are assistants and don't give them the time of day, no matter what they do. here, it's our responsibility to 'nip that in the bud' and take care of business.
stop it when it starts or you'll be listening to it all game.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by tnolan

negative.
but how about a productive discussion about dealing with assistants...
we were discussing this today and i'm not sure of the OP's reasoning for asking, but there is a big gray area with assistant coaches.

i'd like to think that most have a job to do, else they wouldn't be there, and if approached in a kindly manner, with a legitimate question...i want to believe that they are asking for the benefit of the team and head coach while he/she could be busy coaching or instructing in a timeout. in cases like this, i think a lot of officials are quick to treat them like crap just because they are assistants and don't give them the time of day.
but obviously, there is zero to no tolerance for assistants that want to try to officiate or berate officials from the bench as the OP asked. but in those cases, sometimes officials can go the opposite way and completely ignore that because of the fact that they are assistants and don't give them the time of day, no matter what they do. here, it's our responsibility to 'nip that in the bud' and take care of business.
stop it when it starts or you'll be listening to it all game.

I'll answer a polite question from anyone, but I will not spend a minute dealing with an assistant who wants to argue. Second the question turns into that, I'm done with him/her the rest of the game.

[tnolan]

Originally Posted by Rich

I'll answer a polite question from anyone, but I will not spend a minute dealing with an assistant who wants to argue. Second the question turns into that, I'm done with him/her the rest of the game.

i've seen this a lot too! getting "tricked" into a full blown convo with an assistant! sometimes you do have to take a step back and think, "wait a minute, you're not the HC"

this happened to me in a V game earlier this year. it was a 30+ pt blowout and the JV kids were in, and the HC was down at the end of the bench talking to his V kids. i made a call at Lead and came up to report and the JV coaches weren't thrilled with it (up 30) and i wanted to reinforce my call instead of just ignoring. but after a while i had to catch myself, as they were the assistants...
the HC didn't see the play or even care. but that is tough when a V game becomes a JV game