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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 12:03pm
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No. To both. They are not allowed to stand. And they are not allowed to yell at officials while sitting.

Doing one or the other will get a warning from me, to the head coach, the first time. Second time is a T.

Doing both at the same time will likely not get a warning, just the T.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 02:40pm
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no. To both. They are not allowed to stand. And they are not allowed to yell at officials while sitting.

Doing one or the other will get a warning from me, to the head coach, the first time. Second time is a t.

Doing both at the same time will likely not get a warning, just the t.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:50pm
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They are not allowed to stand.
Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 04:51pm
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Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.
Billy, even for you that's a silly response. He can also stand during timeouts, halftime, and if he raises his hand and says "Mother, may I?"
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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:01pm
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I think people mix up this conversation. Arguing with me about a call is not what an assistant gets the rope to do. Asking me a question during a timeout where there might be some information passed, OK. But I am not having a deep conversation with many assistants about anything. I do not like talking twice to a coaching staff when the head coach is the mouth piece of his or her program. I give the HC much more leeway to discuss things. I am also not having 2 or 3 conversations at once. So I will tell the HC that and make that clear.

Also what gets on my nerves is when officials say, "Assistants will be head coaches one day....blah...blah.....blah...." Well then they will learn when they get a head coach why I only want to talk to them. Again you can be nice to everyone and still make it clear I need to talk to the HC.

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Old Wed Jan 18, 2017, 05:37pm
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Since when?

Bench personnel, including the head coach, shall not:
Stand at the team bench while the clock is running or is stopped,
and must remain seated, except:
a. The head coach as in 10-5-1.
b. When a team member is reporting to the scorer's table.
c. During a charged time-out, as in 5-11, or the intermission between quarters
and extra periods.
d. To spontaneously react to an outstanding play by a team member or to
acknowledge a replaced player(s), but must immediately return to his/her
seat.
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Billy, even for you that's a silly response. He can also stand during timeouts, halftime, and if he raises his hand and says "Mother, may I?"
Rich is right, Billy. This is just goofy, given the obvious context. It's right up there with "coaches don't call timeouts, they request them" and getting hung up on "endline" vs "baseline."
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2017, 12:10am
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Rich is right, Billy. This is just goofy, given the obvious context. It's right up there with "coaches don't call timeouts, they request them" and getting hung up on "endline" vs "baseline."


Endline or baseline? I'm given to assume thems fightn words round these here parts.
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2017, 07:31am
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... the obvious context ...
The context is very obvious, and the statements to not allow assistant coaches to stand and complain are very true, but simple statements like, "They are not allowed to stand" can lead to some basketball myths, and as many here on the Forum know, I hate such myths.

Also. What rule basis do we have for allowing head coaches more latitude to complain than assistant coaches? I get the no standing part, it's in the rules, but what about the complaining part?
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Old Thu Jan 19, 2017, 09:02am
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Also. What rule basis do we have for allowing head coaches more latitude to complain than assistant coaches? I get the no standing part, it's in the rules, but what about the complaining part?
The part where our association and state powers-that-be are constantly sending memos urging us to be good game managers. If you'd like to start the precedent of not allowing the coach more latitude because it's not in the rule book, I have a feeling you're not going to like your future schedules.

I understand that you're playing devil's advocate here, but going against common sense doesn't further conversation a whole lot.
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