PC foul without a falling player (Video)

[Camron Rust]

I'm ok with that call. It knocked the defender back several feet allowing the shooter a distinctly closer shot than he deserved. That said, I wouldn't be concerned with a no-call either.

[BillyMac]

I had this same exact play last week, called a player control foul, and immediately wished I could dial it back.

[deecee]

It can go either way (call versus no call). Defender was displaced, and the offensive player was able to get a shot off towards the basket. I may also have made this call. I can guarantee (well almost) no one is calling this ref, or any ref, for this call.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

It can go either way (call versus no call). Defender was displaced, and the offensive player was able to get a shot off towards the basket. I may also have made this call. I can guarantee (well almost) no one is calling this ref, or any ref, for this call.

You're right that it isnt likely he would get a specific call or email over this play. Idid make it sound like that. I think this play will make that crew's list of plays for review. Just as it made our list here. Jeff pulled it because of it being different. I'm not certain in this league, but im aware that other leagues will send crews plays from a game. Good calls, not good calls etc. Mark thought it was an excellent call. I tend to think it will be on the list of plays for review and might come with a note passing might have been better.

And i like you, am not certain about it...which is why I bet Mark and Jr.s house and not my own....

[Pantherdreams]

Did he make the right call? He certainly didn't make the wrong one.

I don't think the debate is about whether its an accurate call rather is this one we would no call. My guess would be at that level they (coaches, players, maybe even the officials administrating body?) are expecting that the threshold for contact/advantage be higher than that before a call is made.


On the flip side maybe if more of these were called at all levels we would see less selling of contact to try to get calls . . .

[MatthewPV]

I must be in the ultra minority on this one....but I have a blocking foul on the defender or a no call.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by MatthewPV

I must be in the ultra minority on this one....but I have a blocking foul on the defender or a no call.

Well, you made me watch it again, but there's no way you should call a blocking foul here, IMO. What do you think the defender did wrong?

Hint, the word "set" cannot be anywhere in your answer.

[MatthewPV]

I know "set" is not a requirement for a defender. After a 2nd...and 3rd look...I stand corrected. The defender is moving laterally therefore isn't in violation.

[ballgame99]

Great call! This isn't a play where the offensive guy just bounces off a legal defender, he knocked the defender back several feet. So you can't say the defender wasn't disadvantaged here. He took a pretty good shot in the chest and played legal defense. This is a call I would expect to get a hard time from a coach on, but I would hope I wouldn't hear about it from an evaluator that knows the rules.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I'm ok with that call. It knocked the defender back several feet allowing the shooter a distinctly closer shot than he deserved. That said, I wouldn't be concerned with a no-call either.

Exactly this. Why do we (officials in general) expect players to fall down in order to call the PC foul?

Do we want players to flop? That's how we get players to flop.