PC foul without a falling player (Video)

[JRutledge]

What do you think?



Peace

[BigCat]

Not a call Id want to make. I suppose he thought it was going to be worse than it was. Needs patient whistle. It happens...
he did try to sell it and didn't show remorse..but I just can't go with it.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Excellent call!

MTD, Sr.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Excellent call!

MTD, Sr.

I would bet your house AND Jr.s someone will have a conversation with him about it. I'd venture to guess he'd tell you he wanted that one back. Yes offense jumped in, yes contact etc. Not enough for foul at that level or even high school imo. I would pass on play like that.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I would bet your house AND Jr.s someone will have a conversation with him about it.id venture to guess he'd tell you he wanted that one back. Yeah offense jumped in, yeah contact etc. Not enough for foul at that level or even high school to me.

Why is it always assumed that "someone will have a conversation with him" about it? I could make that call...but nobody's coming to tell me how good or bad it was.

Maybe it's different where you are.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Rich

Why is it always assumed that "someone will have a conversation with him" about it? I could make that call...but nobody's coming to tell me how good or bad it was.

Maybe it's different where you are.

It might not be much of a conversation but even in juco here there's tape review etc. of plays. My supervisor would say we'd probably want to pass on that. Refereeing is hard. Stuff happens. I'm not saying he'd get docked by any means. I just don't see enough contact there and I think it would be pointed out on review.

And I don't think falling down is always necessary. Post player pivots and leads with elbows hard. I can see charge. This just isn't a play I'd call player control. Offense isn't jumping in with a lot of force it doesn't seem. Hurts his own ability to score.

[BlueDevilRef]

In slow mo, on video, I've got a no call. Live ball.....I want to say I would still have a no call but no promises.

[APG]

No call....

I'd suspect that none of my college assignors would want a call on this play...but I suppose a PC call is better than a block because the defense was legal.

[Bob Bball]

He did not get a good look. Very narrow in lead, looking through the defenders back. To me he guessed when he saw the defence bumped by the ball handler.

Good defence, offence did nothing wrong. This contact is part of the game, play on!

He needed to be in position to get an "open look"!!

[Matt S.]

Here's the three-part test I would use on this play, with my answers/judgement in parentheses):

1. Did the establish and maintain LGP? (yes)
2. Was either player displaced from their legally-obtained spot on the floor? (yes)
3. Was an advantage gained by one player due to said displacement? (yes)

When you add it up, it's a PC foul... but I could live with a no-call if that's how the game had been officiated to that point.