End of game timing Q

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by Rich

You wouldn't clear the lanes. The clock can read 0 without having expired. The horn ends the period, not the clock reading 0.

Okay, so lanes occupied. Regardless of how fts play out (make one, both, miss both) if timer didn't allow horn to blow to begin with, how the heck is game to end? Are you going to instruct him to sound it or ??

I assume this would really only happen when there are tenths left but they aren't displayed?

And again, genuinely trying to figure it out given oddities, not being a jerk

[ODog]

Originally Posted by BlueDevilRef

Okay, so lanes occupied. Regardless of how fts play out (make one, both, miss both) if timer didn't allow horn to blow to begin with, how the heck is game to end?

??

I'm getting scared by this thread, but I'll humor it.

The timer would (hopefully) start the clock upon the next legal touch inbounds (rebound or throw-in) and the horn would theoretically arrive less than a second later, ending the game.

In the OP, the timer didn't intentionally withhold the horn. He just happened to stop the clock fractions of a second before the horn was to sound. The fact the clock reads 0 at that moment is irrelevant. There's still time left, as has already been said by several posters above.

[Adam]

Odog answered right. I would add that you should have a count when the ball becomes live. Once you get to 1, if there's no horn, blow the whistle and end the game.

[Camron Rust]

I once had a game where the a foul or violation was called (OOB?) just as tie was expiring for the quarter. It was so close to the horn that the horn had just started sounding but the stopping of the clock was so quickly after that you barely heard a blip from the horn. I was puzzled for a moment before realizing what happened. I don't remember the exact play, but time had expired and if we were not listening carefully or it had been noisy, we would have never heard the horn.

[Altor]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I once had a game where the a foul or violation was called (OOB?) just as tie was expiring for the quarter. It was so close to the horn that the horn had just started sounding but the stopping of the clock was so quickly after that you barely heard a blip from the horn. I was puzzled for a moment before realizing what happened. I don't remember the exact play, but time had expired and if we were not listening carefully or it had been noisy, we would have never heard the horn.

I was about 13 years old working the "foul board" for a JV Boys contest (the foul board had a separate console from the main scoreboard/clock for some reason). As time was expiring in the 2Q, a held ball is called. The clock reads 0:00 and the only people in the gym who heard the shortest horn in the world were me and the home coach (who was my industrial arts teacher).

He plead his case to the official for a moment that the horn sounded, but the official disagreed. And the home team reluctantly made the AP throw-in and didn't get a shot off.

I was a good table official and kept my mouth shut until Monday morning when I told him that I too heard the horn, but didn't feel it was appropriate to speak up. He thanked me for letting him know he wasn't hearing things and agreed that I was correct in not saying anything at the time.