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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:07pm
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Tennessee State @ Duke play (Video)

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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 08:22pm
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Yes there is contact. It that a good call? I'll pass on answering.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:25pm
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I can't get videos to play anymore from your posts rut. Stupid technology.

I was going to ask and it might be a diff thread starter, but did anyone else see Les Jones emphatically pointing at shot clock when it was under 10? I can't imagine this is an approved mechanic......
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:29pm
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No, that was not a good call. C did not have a good look at it and if there was contact it was very very minor. I think he anticipated the call.

I had to go to web view on the app to get vid to load up. Weird.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 10:37pm
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This to me was a very good call. He clips his left leg and if you see the original angle, he falls because of this. You have to protect the shooter in this case and it does not take much. The call was correct and why I slowed it down. I only happen to hear what the commentator said which caught my eye for the play.

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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:16pm
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This to me was a very good call. He clips his left leg and if you see the original angle, he falls because of this. You have to protect the shooter in this case and it does not take much. The call was correct and why I slowed it down. I only happen to hear what the commentator said which caught my eye for the play.

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Interesting play. Allen has him beat completely. I cant tell if blue hits allens left leg or allen curls his left leg back and in to hit blue. Left leg usually doesnt curl back in like that. Usually just stays in same place.

Looking at it again it looks like blue does keep moving and hits allen's leg as it moves in. I agree it looks like a good call. And i agree, when a player is in the air it doesnt take much contact to cause a problem.

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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:51pm
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He hits his foot.

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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:54pm
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No, that was not a good call. C did not have a good look at it and if there was contact it was very very minor. I think he anticipated the call.

I had to go to web view on the app to get vid to load up. Weird.
The defender clips the airborne shooter's foot. Great call by an official I'm not particularly fond of.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2016, 11:57pm
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I can't get videos to play anymore from your posts rut. Stupid technology.

I was going to ask and it might be a diff thread starter, but did anyone else see Les Jones emphatically pointing at shot clock when it was under 10? I can't imagine this is an approved mechanic......
Can we have some context?

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Contact, but not a foul.
I watched some of this game and it was definitely a clinic on calling the game under the freedom of movement POE.
I'd say this call fit well with how this particular game was being officiated tonight. However, this seems like marginal contact IMO.
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I cant tell if blue hits allens left leg or allen curls his left leg back and in to hit blue.
I doubt any official in the world would be good enough to decide that Allen curled his foot back to create the contact and no-call it because of that.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 08:10am
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I doubt any official in the world would be good enough to decide that Allen curled his foot back to create the contact and no-call it because of that.
I have seen this play several times over my career. You see a defender either stick out their hip or they catch an airborne shooter on the leg. Heck, from his point of view this was likely very easy to see. It is not that hard to see. The angle we had was not great. And the shooter falls on his behind.

Also another key, the player did not complain at all. He knew he hit him on some level and that is why he fell to the floor.

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It looked to me that Jones was pointing several times toward the shot clock every time it would go under 10 seconds. Doing it very emphatically. Was wondering if that was a mechanic similar to a last second shot in HS. Depends on partner but it's normally a point toward sky under one min. Just don't remember anyone doing it for shot clock. I don't know if players reacted to it but seems to me he would be drawing their attention to it and it might help a team in avoiding a violation.
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Old Tue Dec 20, 2016, 09:20am
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It looked to me that Jones was pointing several times toward the shot clock every time it would go under 10 seconds. Doing it very emphatically. Was wondering if that was a mechanic similar to a last second shot in HS. Depends on partner but it's normally a point toward sky under one min. Just don't remember anyone doing it for shot clock. I don't know if players reacted to it but seems to me he would be drawing their attention to it and it might help a team in avoiding a violation.
The only time I ever reference the shot clock is after an out-of-bounds violation or something that interrupts play without a reset. We remind me each other that there is only so much time left on the shot clock.

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