Michigan @ UCLA Play (Video)

[JRutledge]

This was shown on something else, so I wanted to bring it here.

What do you think about this play?



Peace

[Rich]

In my game, we're counting that and going intentional.

I don't work NCAA hoops, though.

[bob jenkins]

I have the foul (with the left hand, about waist high) as before the "gather."

Subsequent "fouls" with the right hand and the left hand about shoulder height were after the gather.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Rich

In my game, we're counting that and going intentional.

I don't work NCAA hoops, though.

The only difference in college is did he start his upward motion. I think most HS officials would have waved this off as well.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

I'm counting it.....then intentional.

[SC Official]

The L looks like he's blowing his whistle on the initial bump from behind before the wrap up even happens.

Given that, I can understand how he ruled this before the act of shooting. That being said, I'm with Rich and Camron.

[deecee]

Im probably counting this at all levels. It was close and depends on what contact the official considered the foul.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SC Official

The L looks like he's blowing his whistle on the initial bump from behind before the wrap up even happens.

Given that, I can understand how he ruled this before the act of shooting. That being said, I'm with Rich and Camron.

If that's what he's calling, then I'm not sure how it's an intentional personal foul. It's either intentional (then that part is the foul) or it's a common foul followed by a technical or nothing for the subsequent wrap-up.

[Raymond]

If this is the same play as on FB, there is a bump early that would be a common foul, and there is a wrap-up after the shooting motion begins that would be FF1 plus score the basket.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If this is the same play as on FB, there is a bump early that would be a common foul, and there is a wrap-up after the shooting motion begins that would be FF1 plus score the basket.

This is why you have a slow whistle. See all of the play and this call is easier to rule on IMO.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is why you have a slow whistle. See all of the play and this call is easier to rule on IMO.

Peace

My thought, too. He committed to that early bump and waving off the shot, then decided to upgrade because of what happened during the shooting motion.

Rich is right, you either have the bump and nothing (I don't think I'd normally upgrade that wrap up if the ball was dead, but I'm not sure), or the basket and IF (FF1) here.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

If this is the same play as on FB, there is a bump early that would be a common foul, and there is a wrap-up after the shooting motion begins that would be FF1 plus score the basket.

Sorry, I should said FF1 before - I know better.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Rich

Sorry, I should said FF1 before - I know better.

Don't worry this is not Facebook, nobody here is that pedantic, I hope.

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[SC Official]

Originally Posted by Rich

If that's what he's calling, then I'm not sure how it's an intentional personal foul. It's either intentional (then that part is the foul) or it's a common foul followed by a technical or nothing for the subsequent wrap-up.

Touché.