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Old Mon Nov 28, 2016, 09:07pm
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There are a couple oc case plays in the section 4-double fouls where a DF is called during a try and the team gets to run the end-line. I'd say that's close enough to your play,

I'm not sure NCAAW would have the same ruling.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2016, 02:57pm
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There are a couple oc case plays in the section 4-double fouls where a DF is called during a try and the team gets to run the end-line. I'd say that's close enough to your play,

I'm not sure NCAAW would have the same ruling.
This is the exact reasoning that I used for the play, but was told you can't run the end line, period, if something more the a common foul. Was brought up in a small group before the high school group meeting before the season starts and it was me vs 3 vets who thought they couldn't run it after a double T.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2016, 05:52pm
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This is the exact reasoning that I used for the play, but was told you can't run the end line, period, if something more the a common foul. Was brought up in a small group before the high school group meeting before the season starts and it was me vs 3 vets who thought they couldn't run it after a double T.
Rule 4 plays deal with shot in the air. Double foul (Blarge occurs.). Poi is where we are when ball becomes dead. If ball goes in, endline throwin..running. If missed arrow.

Rule 7 says if a team commits common foul or violation before throw in ends and ensuing throw in b on endline they retain right to run. A double foul is not a common foul. Sine the ball is through the basket in this play does rule 7 now take precedence over 4-36? Poi. (Rule 7 presumes ball is already through net. I don't necessarily think it requires ball to be at disposal. It says common foul or violation before the throwin ends. Doesn't say during the throw in).

Does POI mean same type of throwin....running endline...
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2016, 10:36pm
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Does POI mean same type of throwin....running endline...
Yes, same as if the POI were an AP throw-in. Resume with the AP throw-in.
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Old Wed Nov 30, 2016, 11:04pm
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Yes, same as if the POI were an AP throw-in. Resume with the AP throw-in.
Sounds simple enough But,

Why does rule 7 say a team retains the right to run the end line if a COMMON foul or violation occurs before the throw in ends and the ensuing throw in would be on end line?

More importantly, why doesn't it also say after a double foul team retains right to run the baseline if the ensuing throw in be on end line?
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 02:32am
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Sounds simple enough But,

Why does rule 7 say a team retains the right to run the end line if a COMMON foul or violation occurs before the throw in ends and the ensuing throw in would be on end line?
If it happens to be an intentional or flagrant foul, that throwin will occur after the FTs are taken. I guess they figured the FTs were enough of a penalty that they don't need the ability to run the endline too.

The right to still run the endline is there so that the team that committed the infraction doesn't come out with an advantage by committing the infraction.

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More importantly, why doesn't it also say after a double foul team retains right to run the baseline if the ensuing throw in be on end line?
That is implied in POI....you go back to whatever was occurring at the time. If that was a throwin with the right to run the endline, that is what you do.
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Old Thu Dec 01, 2016, 02:48am
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If it happens to be an intentional or flagrant foul, that throwin will occur after the FTs are taken. I guess they figured the FTs were enough of a penalty that they don't need the ability to run the endline too.

The right to still run the endline is there so that the team that committed the infraction doesn't come out with an advantage by committing the infraction.
I'd venture it's more of an oversight than anything intentional...cause a team committing a foul worthy of an upgrade, IMO, deserves no benefit of the doubt.
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