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Were all three zebras Irish Catholic celebrating the holiday ??? SFA had no chance !!!!!

[just another ref]

As I recall, with the ball on the floor out of bounds, one player stepped out of bounds, then motioned to another to step out and make the throw-in. I'm thinking I would have started the count when the first player stepped out.

[JRutledge]

There is a big difference between a clock running and a clock being totally stopped. All that delay did was help the defense set up. Without specific direction from the NCAA, I am OK with what was done.

Peace

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

There is a big difference between a clock running and a clock being totally stopped. All that delay did was help the defense set up. Without specific direction from the NCAA, I am OK with what was done.

Peace

Absolutely!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by just another ref

As I recall, with the ball on the floor out of bounds, one player stepped out of bounds, then motioned to another to step out and make the throw-in. I'm thinking I would have started the count when the first player stepped out.

At that point the ball was still out of reach of anybody. It had rolled a long way into the crowd or whoever was sitting back there

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[just another ref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

At that point the ball was still out of reach of anybody. It head rolled a long way into the crowd or whoever was sitting back there

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Not sure about that, but I know he wasn't reaching for it. He was directing traffic for the other guy to step out and make the pass while he went back in to receive it.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Not sure about that, but I know he wasn't reaching for it. He was directing traffic for the other guy to step out and make the pass while he went back in to receive it.

Seriously, why's he required to go get the ball?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Rich

Seriously, why's he required to go get the ball?

The throw-in begins when the ball is at the disposal of a player. It is at the disposal of a player when it is available to a player after a goal and the official begins the count.

Nothing is said about the count not starting until he picks up the ball. What's to keep them from huddling and having a timeout if you're not going to start the count at some point?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The throw-in begins when the ball is at the disposal of a player. It is at the disposal of a player when it is available to a player after a goal and the official begins the count.

Nothing is said about the count not starting until he picks up the ball. What's to keep them from huddling and having a timeout if you're not going to start the count at some point?

You do it your way, everyone else will do it theirs. What they did was the expected way to handle the situation, and as said before the time was stopped, they were down and they gave the defense time to setup.

The team inbounding did not gain any advantage. We can play all the what ifs, but the adjudication was correct.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The throw-in begins when the ball is at the disposal of a player. It is at the disposal of a player when it is available to a player after a goal and the official begins the count.

Nothing is said about the count not starting until he picks up the ball. What's to keep them from huddling and having a timeout if you're not going to start the count at some point?

It wasn't available -- it was back in the crowd. Just cause the last guy went and got it doesn't mean the first guy was *required to*.

With a stopped clock, I'm doing the exact same thing. With a running clock, I'm stopping it and having someone retrieve the ball.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by just another ref

What's to keep them from huddling and having a timeout if you're not going to start the count at some point?

Is that what happened?

Most here have said that *in this situation* what they did was correct. You can even see the official direct someone to go get the ball. My guess is that had there been any further delay he would have started a (deliberate) count.