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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:12pm
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Didn't notice as I watched it live. Yeah, C was loading up to ship that the other way.
Yes C was going the other way. The upward motion stuff is in AR 111:

"Examples of the act of shooting include raising the ball up with the hand or arms to shoot a layup or jump shot.....This act of shooting does not include picking up the dribble, catching (gathering) the ball or advancing on the court with one or both feet."

The NCAAM continuous motion rule does not include the foot movement language that is in the nfhs definition.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:21pm
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Yes C was going the other way. The upward motion stuff is in AR 111:

"Examples of the act of shooting include raising the ball up with the hand or arms to shoot a layup or jump shot.....This act of shooting does not include picking up the dribble, catching (gathering) the ball or advancing on the court with one or both feet."
Thanks. I downloaded the rule book but not the case book.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:35pm
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Yes C was going the other way. The upward motion stuff is in AR 111:

"Examples of the act of shooting include raising the ball up with the hand or arms to shoot a layup or jump shot.....This act of shooting does not include picking up the dribble, catching (gathering) the ball or advancing on the court with one or both feet."

The NCAAM continuous motion rule does not include the foot movement language that is in the nfhs definition.
Don't be confused. The NFHS continuous motion rule REQUIRES the act of shooting to begin in order for the player to THEN be given the right to complete his customary foot movement and pivoting. The reverse is not true. The foot movement doesn't not equate to the start of the act of shooting.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 02:36pm
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He's past the defender, who bumps him from behind. I just don't see how you put this on the offensive player...
Simply not true. The defender is in front the entire time. He is allowed to turn his body sideways after already having established ILGP. The offensive player puts his shoulder down and leads with it as he rams into the defender. The offensive player is not airborne at the time of contact, so the sideways movement of the defender is not a factor.

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Disagree. Guess we may as well move on.
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I would NOT have a shot under NFHS or NCAA.

And, I have a block.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:33pm
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I don't see him extend his arm or anything that would've made me think offensive, so I've got a block with no shots.
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I see it. But one could argue that the defender was not legal at the time of contact. I think either call can be supported.

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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter?
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