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Old Fri Mar 11, 2016, 11:53pm
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Seton Hall/Xavier continuous motion (video request)
Block called with 0:29.0 left in 2nd half. Was ruled a non-shooting foul.
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Fine, fine. I'll answer my own request (I was going to bed when I made the OP )



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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.
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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.

The rule in the NBA is basically the same as the NF rule.

NCAA is only different because they require an upward motion.

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If this was NBA, definitely continuation. If NFHS, then no. NCAA, flip a coin.

In my opinion, it was not continuation. I don't think his arm movement with the ball when the whistle was blown was part of starting a shot.
NFHS and NBA rule is just about the same. NCAA-M is more restrictive.

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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter? The illegal contact in this play was before the BH/D left the floor.

Also, after a quick scan of the NCAAM rule book I don't see the word "upward" used in connection with airborne shooter situations.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 11:55am
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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter? The illegal contact in this play was before the BH/D left the floor.

Also, after a quick scan of the NCAAM rule book I don't see the word "upward" used in connection with airborne shooter situations.
We've been told to interpret upward motion as the beginning of the shot.

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Doesn't upward motion only apply to an airborne shooter?
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He's past the defender, who bumps him from behind. I just don't see how you put this on the offensive player...
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He's past the defender, who bumps him from behind. I just don't see how you put this on the offensive player...
Simply not true. The defender is in front the entire time. He is allowed to turn his body sideways after already having established ILGP. The offensive player puts his shoulder down and leads with it as he rams into the defender. The offensive player is not airborne at the time of contact, so the sideways movement of the defender is not a factor.

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Disagree. Guess we may as well move on.
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I would NOT have a shot under NFHS or NCAA.

And, I have a block.
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Old Sat Mar 12, 2016, 03:33pm
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I don't see him extend his arm or anything that would've made me think offensive, so I've got a block with no shots.
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I see it. But one could argue that the defender was not legal at the time of contact. I think either call can be supported.

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