Correct me if i'm wrong (throw-in spot)

Luv4Asian8 · #1 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 04:29pm

I'm still new, don't forget please. :-) But I've read in the NFHS that throw-in locations were a concern.

Situation from last night: I was lead (as Umpire). Ball went OOB on end line by defense. I took ball out on my sideline, I didn't hear any complaints from the Referee, but sure did from the player in-bounding the ball.

The reason I took it out on sideline was because I read/heard somewhere that for the offense to in-bound under the basket was TOO ADVANTAGEOUS to them...just pass to post and shoot basket - 2pts.

Was my reasoning correct?

BktBallRef · #2 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:05pm

No, it wasn't. If the ball goes OOB on the endline, that's where you put it in play. yes, it's advantageuos to the offense but the defense knocked the ball OOB. Who are we to take away that advantage?

rainmaker · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:07pm

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Originally posted by Luv4Asian8
I'm still new, don't forget please. :-) But I've read in the NFHS that throw-in locations were a concern.

Situation from last night: I was lead (as Umpire). Ball went OOB on end line by defense. I took ball out on my sideline, I didn't hear any complaints from the Referee, but sure did from the player in-bounding the ball.

The reason I took it out on sideline was because I read/heard somewhere that for the offense to in-bound under the basket was TOO ADVANTAGEOUS to them...just pass to post and shoot basket - 2pts.

Was my reasoning correct?

Your reasoning is correct from the defensive coach's point of view, but not according to the rule book. The rule is clearly that the ball is thrown-in from the spot nearest to the infraction. If that infraction is OOB, the ball comes back inbounds where it went out. Remember defense committed an infraction here. They are receiving consequences -- which could well include a basket. Next time, perhaps they can arrange for the ball to go out on the sideline instead. Also remember that you have no discretion in this call. There's no judgment allowed. The ball comes in where the ball went out. Period.

BktBallRef · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:08pm

Gotcha again!

rainmaker · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:09pm

Doggone it!! I thought maybe that little breeze would slow you down a little.

Luv4Asian8 · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:25pm

EDUCATED, once again! Thanks guys!

Kelvin green · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:38pm

There are a couple of times however hat common sense dictates moving the all slightly. You will never take the ball directly undeneath the basket. You dont want to get blamed if the kid throws the ball against the backboard or something like that. take it to closes FT Lane line...

If it goes out in at the intersection of baseline and endline I use the sideline up a step or so, because the administration is easier ( you could move on aseline a step or so from the corner)

If there is a small floor and the table is too close or something use common sense but has been mentioned closest to the spot is the rule

92 days of 100 plus degees before a cold streak of 94 degrees broke it for us...

Camron Rust · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Sep 18, 2003, 05:39pm

One exception to what other have mentioned that may be confusing you.

If the spot where it goes out of bounds is directly behind the basket (between the lane lines extended), the throw-in spot should be moved not to the sideline but just outside the lane line and still on the endline.

rainmaker · #9 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 19, 2003, 02:31am

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Originally posted by Kelvin green
There are a couple of times however hat common sense dictates moving the all slightly. .....( you could move on aseline a step or so from the corner)

Kelvin you need to brush the sand out of your keyboard!

Also, there's more to your suggestion than common sense -- it's a rule not to inbounds behind the basket. It's definitely a common sense rule, though!

DrakeM · #10 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 19, 2003, 01:39pm

Juulie,

It's not sand. Kelvin can't spell WITH a clean keyboard!

Kelvin, glad to see you're still kickin'! Drop me a line.

Drake

Kelvin green · #11 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 19, 2003, 08:19pm

You ought to see my keyboard-
Actually the sand/heat killed two keyboards- 10 CD players-( out of the 10 we had in our unit's PC's) and two large ink jet printers

Althought Drake is generally right- There are some things I can spell

T T T ---Coach youre out of the gym come to mind-

Drake I'll drop you a line this weekend

rainmaker · #12 (**permalink**) Fri Sep 19, 2003, 10:34pm

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Originally posted by Kelvin green
Althought Drake is generally right- There are some things I can spell

T T T ---Coach youre out of the gym come to mind-

I spell this with two T's, not three!

Jurassic Referee · #13 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 20, 2003, 12:55am

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Kelvin green

T T T ---Coach youre out of the gym come to mind-

I spell this with two T's, not three!

Only if they're both direct T's.Could also be 3 indirect T's,or maybe 1 direct and 2 indirects to make up the 3.Could also be 1 T only,if it's flagrant.

Kelvin green · #14 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 20, 2003, 08:53pm

you know it was just the sand stciking the keyboard--- one too many t's unless your Ted Valentine calling T's on Bobby Knight...

rainmaker · #15 (**permalink**) Sat Sep 20, 2003, 09:02pm

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Originally posted by Jurassic Referee

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Originally posted by rainmaker

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Originally posted by Kelvin green

T T T ---Coach youre out of the gym come to mind-

I spell this with two T's, not three!

Only if they're both direct T's.Could also be 3 indirect T's,or maybe 1 direct and 2 indirects to make up the 3.Could also be 1 T only,if it's flagrant.

Wowwy Wow, JR, you don't miss a tttrick, do you? (ps that's a card game metaphor)