Iona @ Monmonth Plays

[JRutledge]

Play #1:


Play #2: Another Travel play



Peace

[WhistlesAndStripes]

First play -- Marginal in my opinion. I felt like as the player in red turned to go up court, he just didn't realize the player in white was that close and it kind of caught him by surprise. Did he extend his arms a little bit, yeah, but not enough to warrant a foul in my opinion. Player in white seemed to take a little exception at first, but even he seemed to move on immediately. I think this could have been left alone.

Second play -- Travel.

[frezer11]

I'm also good with passing on the first, but if you do have a foul, isn't that a T? Dead ball contact technical.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by frezer11

I'm also good with passing on the first, but if you do have a foul, isn't that a T? Dead ball contact technical.

It should be and that is why I showed the play.

These teams also had some history and some kind of altercation in the previous game. I think that might have been why this was ultimately called, but not sure how this is just a regular foul?

Peace

[BryanV21]

Play 1: Unless, like the announcer referred to, I know of a history and believe letting this go could lead to some type of retaliation and issue... I'm passing.

Play 2: At this angle, and in real speed, I couldn't pick up the pivot foot once the ball was gathered. It looked bad, though, but without knowing I'm passing on this. On replay, though, I saw the right foot was the pivot at the time the ball was gathered from the dribble, then picked up and put back down on the floor before the shot... travel.

[Raymond]

1) I could definitely see myself calling a T on this. I don't tolerate unnecessary crap in my games. Put a whistle on that and it let's everyone else know that bull---- won't be happening.

2) No commentary needed.

[johnny d]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

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I think that might have been why this was ultimately called, but not sure how this is just a regular foul?

Peace

If a regular foul is what they went with then it is clearly a mistake. If you are going to call a foul on this play it has to be a contact dead ball technical.

[BryanV21]

Originally Posted by johnny d

If a regular foul is what they went with then it is clearly a mistake. If you are going to call a foul on this play it has to be a contact dead ball technical.

Not saying I think this is right, just asking for the hell of it...

Would you say that you believe the ball, after the made basket, was at the disposal of Monmouth when the foul occurred? Meaning Monmouth had team control, therefore it was a live ball when the foul was made.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by johnny d

If you are going to call a foul on this play it has to be a contact dead ball technical.

Maybe the center (who made the foul call), thought that the ball had already been inbounded, or was at the disposal (thus live), he appears to be looking at the two players involved, not the endline.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

Travel.

Agree. Right foot is pivot foot and it returns to the floor before the ball is released. I actually thought that this was easy to call in real time (and this situation is the hardest for me to call in a game). I'm not blaming anyone, because I've certainly missed these in my high school games, but why did the officials miss it? What were they looking for here, a foul? Maybe, even with three guys, it was difficult to get back in transition and get set to make the correct call? Lead and center looked to be in a pretty good positions. Maybe the center got straightlined by the ball handler, and maybe the lead got straightlined by the defender? White #10 seems to be upset about the no travel call (but he had the worst seat in the house to see this properly).

What's the Pontius Pilate hand signal given by the lead after the play?