after made basket throw in scenario

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by eyezen

I'm not having any luck embedding and the video is awful but this is what was texted to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAyuAJhCszs

It's a private video, won't let me view it.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's a private video, won't let me view it.

Try now

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by eyezen

Try now

He's obviously TRYING to make a throw in as opposed to passing it to another player so that he can take it out. The video is grainy but if the ball left his fingertips before his foot hit out of bounds it's a violation. I want to be sure before calling it. If it is obvious I will call it then. not wait for a 5 count.

[eyezen]

Originally Posted by BigCat

He's obviously TRYING to make a throw in as opposed to passing it to another player so that he can take it out. The video is grainy but if the ball left his fingertips before his foot hit out of bounds it's a violation. I want to be sure before calling it. If it is obvious I will call it then. not wait for a 5 count.

The calling official told me there is no question B1 was not OOB when the ball was released to B2. You can't see much but you can see the call on the court is an immediate violation - that is my opinion as well as to the proper ruling.

I've scoured the NCAAM book, a FED rule/case reference will work too

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by eyezen

The calling official told me there is no question B1 was not OOB when the ball was released to B2. You can't see much but you can see the call on the court is an immediate violation - that is my opinion as well as to the proper ruling.

I've scoured the NCAAM book, a FED rule/case reference will work too

I was thinking your play was a player taking the ball out of the net and simply passing it up the floor. There's a fed case play about that. This play is different. You just go by basic throw in rule and violation rule. If he is attempting to make a throw in and doesn't do it correctly it is a violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

He's obviously TRYING to make a throw in as opposed to passing it to another player so that he can take it out. The video is grainy but if the ball left his fingertips before his foot hit out of bounds it's a violation. I want to be sure before calling it. If it is obvious I will call it then. not wait for a 5 count.

If what's obvious?

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

If what's obvious?

I want to be certain it is a violation before calling. Not going to split hairs on this. Obvious to me that it is a violation.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BigCat

I want to be certain it is a violation before calling. Not going to split hairs on this. Obvious to me that it is a violation.

If it's not obvious it's a violation, why would you start a 5 second count?

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it's not obvious it's a violation, why would you start a 5 second count?

I thought the original play was B1 taking the ball out of the net. Then passing the ball to B2 with no attempt to get out of bounds. When the ball comes out of the net and B has it I'll wait to start a count until he gets out of bounds. If he stands there under the net without trying to get out of bounds or flips it to someone else to take the throw in i'll likely start the count. If it is clear he isn't passing the ball for someone else to throw it in…they go up floor etc I will call the violation without getting to 5.

The video is nothing like what I was visualizing. I would not have started counting in it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it's not obvious it's a violation, why would you start a 5 second count?

I think you mis-read his post (as I did the first time).

He IS saying if it's obvious he would call it immediately and not wait until 5-seconds.

If it's not obvious he would pass.