Too many quarters

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Rich

I know I suggested a timeout, but I'd allow the sub.

As would I.

"Coach, you're saying #25 is no longer eligible? I need a sub, then."

[Nevadaref]

I officiate by the NFHS rules book. I don't care about any restrictions that are particular to a league/conference about playing quarters. That is not my concern. The coaches and ADs can worry about that stuff. I'm not bending the substitution rules to accommodate them. If they encounter a problem they can take a time-out to prevent a player participating.

Officials shouldn't have to worry about such things. They are outside of our purview.

[OKREF]

Next time they have the ball, just stop play and get the sub in.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Officials shouldn't have to worry about such things. They are outside of our purview.

Except that in some places, they do have to worry because they are in the rules.

In the OP, I'd ask the state (if they haven't already addressed it) how to deal with it.

We see similar items reasonably frequently in baseball where "local rules" are added without considering how the umpire should enforce them.

Local rules are made by fools.

[frezer11]

From what I understand, the officials were made aware of the situation after the fact by a team B assistant who was keeping the book, who apparently also did the JV game. The home team didn't say anything about why they needed a sub. I think I would've tried to let the sub in if I knew what the deal was, but if the opposing coach was aware and/or upset, then I'm making the home team take a TO. Never seen a score of 2-0 reported until now!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by frezer11

From what I understand, the officials were made aware of the situation after the fact by a team B assistant who was keeping the book, who apparently also did the JV game. The home team didn't say anything about why they needed a sub. I think I would've tried to let the sub in if I knew what the deal was, but if the opposing coach was aware and/or upset, then I'm making the home team take a TO. Never seen a score of 2-0 reported until now!

Honestly, if I'm never told why they need to make the sub, I can't adjust.

If I'm told they need a sub because A15 is no longer eligible, I'm going to allow the sub. I think the spirit of the rules allow for this, just as they'd allow us to sub out a player who managed to DQ himself, injured himself or got blood on his jersey in the middle of the timeout.

OTOH, if they sub him out at this point, it may already be too late.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

... got blood on his jersey in the middle of the timeout.

Just tell the coach to punch the player in the nose.

[junruh07]

Here's what we are to do in my state. We are supposed to remove the player as soon as we are made aware that they are playing in their 7th quarter. There is no in game penalty, but we are supposed to fill out a form. I am allowing a sub, even if they are late to the table.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I officiate by the NFHS rules book. I don't care about any restrictions that are particular to a league/conference about playing quarters. That is not my concern. The coaches and ADs can worry about that stuff. I'm not bending the substitution rules to accommodate them. If they encounter a problem they can take a time-out to prevent a player participating.

Officials shouldn't have to worry about such things. They are outside of our purview.

I officiate on a basketball court in the real world. Not on an Internet forum and not inside a rules book.

I know these rules quite well because I'm a conference commissioner and I handle waivers that teams request (smaller programs can get a waiver for players to play in a 3rd half per night). I get that not every official is going to be versed in these rules, but I can't help that. That night, my concern is the game in front of me.