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This is EXACTLY why you should have a coach from each team review the official scorebook (for correct player #'s AND correct starters) and require their initials as evidence of their approval.
This very easily removes the responsibility from the official scorer and game officials of any mistakes being made. Once the coach approves the scorebook, THAT is when the info. has been provided to the official scorer - there is NO POSSIBILITY for scorer error... |
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Are you just trying to be argumentative with me? I don't get it. |
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Again... Where does the rule book say to use that book as proof of starters? Sent from my SM-G925V using Tapatalk |
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You can use whatever source of legal information to make a determination for making a ruling. The official book is the fallback when you can't find anything to the contrary. And the official book can be changed.
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Man you guys are over complicating this. If I have an issue like this I ask the home (official, whatever) book, where they got the info from. Then I ask the visiting coach what he provided. If the home book used the visitors scorebook and the coach says "No i gave a piece of paper." and then we find the piece of paper case solved. If the coach says I told them to copy the visitors book and that was where the error was, then it's on the coach.
But I ask the coach what he/she provided and use that as my comparison tool. I don't go assuming anything.
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In my case I pull varsity rosters from MaxPreps and prep from that.When the varsity coaches show up I have them check and verify everything is correct before the officials are even out there.
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If the coach, or a representative of the team, filled it out directly, call the T or have him start the marked starters. If the scorer says he got it from the V book, or from a program given him by the team, check the source document. You need to do this to determine whether the coach met his obligations under the rule. Again, per rule, bookkeeping errors can be corrected at any time.
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There is no provision in the rules that renders the coach responsible for bookkeeping errors just because you had him review the book before the game.
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All I said... AGAIN... is to go ahead and do what you can to avoid giving that technical. Check the visitor/unofficial book... check the lineup given to them on a piece of paper... whatever. Just make sure it's not a mistake. There are some people around here that need to read a post without assuming there's something wrong in there. If you have a question about what is said... ask. Don't automatically assume you're dealing with a moron. |
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