Hanging on the Rim

[griblets]

In two recent games, I've had a partner call a T for hanging on the rim on a dunk attempt, once from L, when I passed on it from T. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with either decision (even though I wouldn't touch that call from L), but I'd like to hear from some of you on what you look for when judging whether or not to call a T for hanging on the rim on a dunk.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

[jTheUmp]

Hanging on the rim is ok if they're trying to avoid injuring themselves/others. (the exact wording of the rule is different, but that's spirit of the rule)

So if there are other players in the 'landing zone' or if the dunker winds up being momentarily off-balance as a result of dunking, handing on the rim is acceptable.

Showboating, doing chin-ups, etc, are all disallowed by rule.

My personal opinion: If the dunk is in a crowd, I'm more likely to give leeway for a momentary rim-hang. If it's on a breakway, less leeway assuming he's not off-balance.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by griblets

In two recent games, I've had a partner call a T for hanging on the rim on a dunk attempt, once from L, when I passed on it from T. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with either decision (even though I wouldn't touch that call from L), but I'd like to hear from some of you on what you look for when judging whether or not to call a T for hanging on the rim on a dunk.

Thanks in advance for your feedback!

You cannot hang on the rim period. UNLESS it's to avoid injury. Make sure no one is underneath him and he doesn't appear off balance. If those are NO then T.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by deecee

You cannot hang on the rim period. UNLESS it's to avoid injury. Make sure no one is underneath him and he doesn't appear off balance. If those are NO then T.

And further, all you can do is avoid injury. So if you do a pull up, etc. you should get a T even if just hanging would have been okay.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by deecee

You cannot hang on the rim period. UNLESS it's to avoid injury. Make sure no one is underneath him and he doesn't appear off balance. If those are NO then T.

You could be on the same page as me, but from reading this I'm far more lenient.

It's rare, but I've seen some really bad calls for "hanging on the rim." I'm giving players the benefit of the doubt if I ever think they're making sure there is a safe spot to land. Even on a fast break, all alone, if I'm dunking, I want to stop swinging and make sure there's no one coming up behind me that may have their feet somewhere under me.

Chin-ups and other actions like it are an easy tell for a T. However, some players could take longer to feel like it's safe to let go of the rime. No one underneath + not off balance doesn't necessarily equal a T for me.

[wildcatter]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

And further, all you can do is avoid injury. So if you do a pull up, etc. you should get a T even if just hanging would have been okay.

This is right, and where a lot of confusion takes place. I am really lenient on hanging on the rim Ts, and I've had partners that catch these 'pull ups' that I miss. Here are a couple videos.

1) [NBA - but still applies]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfaaN-MFC_k

2) Kentucky vs. Mississippi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRIqAXSYpo

3) High school (I think?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcwOmGZys74

Thoughts?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

And further, all you can do is avoid injury. So if you do a pull up, etc. you should get a T even if just hanging would have been okay.

My crew the other night got dinged for not calling a T when the player pulled up on the rim instead of just hanging there.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by wildcatter

This is right, and where a lot of confusion takes place. I am really lenient on hanging on the rim Ts, and I've had partners that catch these 'pull ups' that I miss. Here are a couple videos.

1) [NBA - but still applies]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfaaN-MFC_k

2) Kentucky vs. Mississippi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XRIqAXSYpo

3) High school (I think?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcwOmGZys74

Thoughts?

#1 & #3 are T's, Anthony Davis' was not, IMO.

What about this from one of my high school games this year? I'm Slot. https://streamable.com/spzh

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

#1 & #3 are T's, Anthony Davis' was not, IMO.

I don't think #2 is, lots of players underneath him and we don't have a great angle of what's going on underneath.

[mrroberts]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What about this from one of my high school games this year? I'm Slot. https://streamable.com/spzh

Close, but I'm on the lenient side so I would have passed.

With that said he probably does just a very slight pull up but almost immediately after that he appears to be looking down to make sure nobody is below him before he releases.

In regards to the other 3 videos... I agree that 1 and 3 are good calls. #2 on the Brow was a bad call.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What about this from one of my high school games this year? I'm Slot. https://streamable.com/spzh

I wouldn't even think about calling it. Pulling up on the rim a bit helps the swinging and control a bit. He let go once the momentum pretty much stopped.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What about this from one of my high school games this year? I'm Slot. https://streamable.com/spzh

Hey, that was at my alma mater. That's interesting.

I think they want us to get that one in Ohio based on the video they should from the tournament last year.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by AremRed

What about this from one of my high school games this year? I'm Slot. https://streamable.com/spzh

That's a T. There is no planet where his body had to go parallel to the ground with that dunk. He doesn't have to release right away but that's an easy T IMO.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

Hey, that was at my alma mater. That's interesting.

I think they want us to get that one in Ohio based on the video they should from the tournament last year.

What's the reason for wanting you to get it? I'm pretty lenient on dunks for safety reasons, but maybe one of these days the other side will get me.