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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 02:37pm
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I would immediately inform the assigner and his AD. He has no business even having your phone number, IMO.

And you're right, he knows why they were called.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 02:40pm
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I would immediately inform the assigner and his AD. He has no business even having your phone number, IMO.

And you're right, he knows why they were called.
Well...we use The Arbiter and they can see the officials assigned to their games and have contact information just in case something happens on game day. It isn't always feasible to actually speak to the assignor and have him make sure the officials know of a problem with the game (or site).
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When you say "pump up the crowd" what do you mean?
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 02:50pm
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Well...we use The Arbiter and they can see the officials assigned to their games and have contact information just in case something happens on game day. It isn't always feasible to actually speak to the assignor and have him make sure the officials know of a problem with the game (or site).
Fair enough. Accessing this to follow up on a technical foul call he disagreed with is inappropriate, IMO. I would neither call him back nor email him. Let the appropriate association leadership know, and follow their lead. Sounds like you're doing that.

As it is, you gave him a lot more rope on his T than a lot of officials would.
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I'm assuming you mean she was inciting the crowd to taunt the crew or something unsporting. If she has fouled out and is trying to pump up the fans to support the remaining players on her way to bench not sure why you would get involved.
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I'm assuming you mean she was inciting the crowd to taunt the crew or something unsporting. If she has fouled out and is trying to pump up the fans to support the remaining players on her way to bench not sure why you would get involved.
My thoughts too.

I'd love it when a player pumps up the crowd. That is part of what makes the game fun.

I don't see anywhere near enough in the OP to justify even taking notice of what she was doing.

That said, once that was done, the coach earn his for sure. There is no need to call him back unless you plan on conceding that you were perhaps too officious on the first one.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 03:26pm
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If they were booing or protesting the call and she did that, I agree. Either way, you drew a line in the sand with both situations, they both crossed and you whacked. I have no issue with it, and I would have whacked him with his second "let the players decide" comment after you told him "we are finished discussing it," with serious consideration for just serving him after the first comment questioning your integrity. You don't owe that coach anything, I'd say let your association deal with it.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 03:35pm
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If they were booing or protesting the call and she did that, I agree. Either way, you drew a line in the sand with both situations, they both crossed and you whacked. I have no issue with it, and I would have whacked him with his second "let the players decide" comment after you told him "we are finished discussing it," with serious consideration for just serving him after the first comment questioning your integrity. You don't owe that coach anything, I'd say let your association deal with it.
Good point that I left out of the OP. The visiting team fans were voicing their displeasure with the initial call...in all the usual ways (booing and comments).

She was using both hands (palms up) and gesturing similar to a football player trying to quite the crowd. If she had not looked me square in the eyes when she did it the second time I probably would have passed thinking she neither saw me or heard the warning. Since we had made eye contact and she kept the contact during the second episode I felt she earned the T.
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I think the coaches for the schools in our chapter know enough to contact the assignor first with issues - not sure how yours handles these things. Does your assignor know what happened yet? I would have been on the phone as soon as the game was over getting my side of it to him first. Whenever something happens in a game that the assignor will likely get a phone call for, we are instructed to try and get to the assignor first.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 02:46pm
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There is absolutely no way I am getting on a phone call with him. Period. I don't care if there are other people on a conference line, or not. Absolutely nothing good will come from getting on the phone with him.

There should be a process in place for these types of thing and that process should be this: 1) Coach calls assignor to complain/question/etc. 2) Assignor calls you to discuss. 3) Assignor calls coach back with explanation and final opinion.
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Old Mon Feb 01, 2016, 10:31pm
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I would immediately inform the assigner and his AD. He has no business even having your phone number, IMO.



And you're right, he knows why they were called.

We got an email from booking agent last month with these exact instructions and reminder that contact with coach for this type of reason is both unprofessional and expressly forbidden by our assn. do not return that call. Let your assn handle it. That coach knows better.
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