Correctable Error - Situation?

[BEAREF]

Player A1 is fouled by B2.

Team A inbounds the ball and during their possession Team B steals a pass and drives to the other end and scores. Team A inbounds the ball and as they are bring the ball up court the table sounds the horn and lets the officials know that the previous foul by B2 was the 7th team foul and A1 should have been awarded a 1&1 bonus freethrow.

Is this a correctable error? Was it “caught” within the correct timeframe? How would it be enforced.

[IAUMP]

It is a correctable error, however no it was not caught in time. A retains possession of the ball for a throw in.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by IAUMP

It is a correctable error, however no it was not caught in time. A retains possession of the ball for a throw in.

Someone hasn't been reading their casebook!

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by Dad

Someone hasn't been reading their casebook!

Please post the applicable case play..

[Smitty]

It is not within the allowed time period to correct. The reason is that once Team B scored, that was the first dead ball after the error and that would have been the time limit when you could have corrected it. Once Team A inbounded the ball, it was too late to correct. I know this because it bit me in the ass last year...

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

Please post the applicable case play(s)..

There's a lot of case plays.
Change of possession so we know we are going POI. Free throws are done with no one on the line.

Step:

1) Foul was called

2) Error was made

3) Ball was made live(properly started)

4) Errors must be recognized by officials no later than during the first dead ball after the clock is properly started.

TLR(Kinda) One live ball. No second live ball. We can fix

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by Dad

There's a lot of case plays.
Change of possession so we know we are going POI. Free throws are done with no one on the line.

Step:

1) Foul was called

2) Error was made

3) Ball was made live(properly started)

4) Errors must be recognized by officials no later than during the first dead ball after the clock is properly started.

TLR(Kinda) One live ball. No second live ball. We can fix

Wrong.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Dad

There's a lot of case plays.
Change of possession so we know we are going POI. Free throws are done with no one on the line.

Step:

1) Foul was called

2) Error was made

3) Ball was made live(properly started)

4) Errors must be recognized by officials no later than during the first dead ball after the clock is properly started.

TLR(Kinda) One live ball. No second live ball. We can fix

How many times did the ball become dead after the error in the OP and before the error was discovered?

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Smitty

Wrong.

Yeah, you're right. Nevermind. -_-

[WhistlesAndStripes]

Originally Posted by Dad

Someone hasn't been reading their casebook!

Originally Posted by Dad

Yeah, you're right. Nevermind. -_-

So, tell us now who hasn't been reading their casebook?

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Whistles & Stripes

So, tell us now who hasn't been reading their casebook?

[BEAREF]

Originally Posted by Smitty

It is not within the allowed time period to correct. The reason is that once Team B scored, that was the first dead ball after the error and that would have been the time limit when you could have corrected it. Once Team A inbounded the ball, it was too late to correct. I know this because it bit me in the ass last year...

OK.. so let's say the table buzzed the horn immediately after the basket by B before A inbounded the all. At that time it would have been within the timeframe.

The enforcement would be to shoot the free throws with the lane cleared... resume play at point of interruption with Team A entitled to a throw in on the endline entitled to run the endline.

correct??

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

OK.. so let's say the table buzzed the horn immediately after the basket by B before A inbounded the all. At that time it would have been within the timeframe.

The enforcement would be to shoot the free throws with the lane cleared... resume play at point of interruption with Team A entitled to a throw in on the endline entitled to run the endline.

correct??

Mostly correct. It's not before the ball was in-bounded, but when the official judged the ball to be at the thrower's disposal.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by BEAREF

OK.. so let's say the table buzzed the horn immediately after the basket by B before A inbounded the all. At that time it would have been within the timeframe.

The enforcement would be to shoot the free throws with the lane cleared... resume play at point of interruption with Team A entitled to a throw in on the endline entitled to run the endline.

correct??

The timeframe has to do with dead balls and live balls. Nothing to do with the time.

You have until the ball becomes live AFTER the first dead ball AFTER the error was made. The made basket causes the ball to be dead (so would a violation or foul). However the ball then becomes live once "at the disposal" of the new offensive team.

Say in your scenario I would be a bit liberal with "at the disposal" to fix an error. Your assessment is correct with how to adjudicate.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by deecee

The timeframe has to do with dead balls and live balls. Nothing to do with the time.

You have until the ball becomes live AFTER the first dead ball AFTER the error was made. The made basket causes the ball to be dead (so would a violation or foul). However the ball then becomes live once "at the disposal" of the new offensive team.

Say in your scenario I would be a bit liberal with "at the disposal" to fix an error. Your assessment is correct with how to adjudicate.

Time matters. Rule says must correct during first dead ball AFTER the clock has properly started. If in this Op the ball is handed to thrower in after the foul, ball becomes live. Say foul ocurrs while thrower in has ball. That makes ball dead. Hand ball to for new throwin. Ball live again. Original error still correctable because clock has not started.

Time is very important.