Staying In Our Primary

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by LRZ

I've never worked 3-man, and will likely never do so. But I do like to learn, so here's my question: how do you know what a partner saw or could see? That is, how do you know when to pass and when not?

How do you know in two-person?

Same answer.

[Dad]

I'm trying to think of a good official that thinks you should miss a call before calling out of your primary. I can't.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Dad

... calling out of your primary.

In regard to calling out of our primary, we are taught to: Be a little late (give your partner a chance to make the call). Be right (100% sure, not just 90% sure). Be needed (ant versus elephant).

[Dad]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

In regard to calling out of our primary, we are taught to: Be a little late (give your partner a chance to make the call). Be right (100% sure, not just 90% sure). Be needed (ant versus elephant).

I was imagining a call that needed to be made and my assigner asking why I didn't call it. "It wasn't in my primary" isn't going to fly. Say... an obvious air-ball on a free throw by 5 feet and for some unknown reason the T/C don't get it. I'll call it as the L. Shouldn't ever happen, just sayin'.

Completely agree. Not only 100% sure, but also a call that needs to be made.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Dad

I was imagining a call that needed to be made and my assigner asking why I didn't call it. "It wasn't in my primary" isn't going to fly. Say... an obvious air-ball on a free throw by 5 feet and for some unknown reason the T/C don't get it. I'll call it as the L. Shouldn't ever happen, just sayin'.

There is a difference, as far as i am concerned, with violations and fouls. One has to do with judgement and the other with black/white distinction. Missing a violation to me is more egregious as a call/no-call based on judgement, especially if your argument is "I didn't want to reach."

[Dad]

Originally Posted by deecee

There is a difference, as far as i am concerned, with violations and fouls. One has to do with judgement and the other with black/white distinction. Missing a violation to me is more egregious as a call/no-call based on judgement, especially if your argument is "I didn't want to reach."

So what's your take on staying in your primary? Didn't perfectly follow what you were saying.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Dad

So what's your take on staying in your primary? Didn't perfectly follow what you were saying.

There is more latitude with violations than fouls when going outside the PCA. A violation either happened or it didn't as there is no judgement. With a foul, contact either happened or it didn't, however that does not determine if a foul occurred.

[BillyMac]

This thread reminded me of a lake in Webster, Massachusetts, Lake Chargoggagoggmanchauggagoggchabunagungamaugg. Translated from Nipmuc, an Algonquian language, "You fish on your side, I'll fish on my side, and nobody fish in the middle". Of course, that wouldn't work very well in a basketball game.