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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:58pm
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It seems the old guard wants to have the lead take it and I understand why. It's coming right at them.
It's easier for me to get a typical block/charge call when coming at me. I am improving at picking it up from C (or at odd times even T). It makes sense to me that the primary official has the play "all the way", but on the court it seems L more often than not can see this as well or better, even if keeping an eye on an off ball matchup.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2016, 04:29pm
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we'll give Lead "first crack" at fast breaks, and Center can come in late if they had a look at something the Lead might not have had from their angle, like a push in the back, or a foul on the arm opposite that the Lead could easily miss in transition, even while in position.

lately i've personally been trying to get more calls from Center. and double whistles aren't a sin, just be sure to hold your prelims and be patient, release to the primary and/or be strong with your call...
many reasons here why a good pre-game is so important.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2016, 03:51am
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...i've personally been trying to get more calls from Center
This is very good when what you're getting are those calls in C's paint. An engaged C can get more primary matchup calls/no-calls correct in that, his primary area. When L calls over in C's paint, especially with a quick, impulsive whistles, that's when call accuracy suffers. This is the hardest thing for Leads who are trying to make the transition from 2-person to 3-person to learn--to let C have that call over there, unless, of course, something is missed and secondary cadence whistle is called for. Wish you the best on your pursuit as an engaged, play-calling C!
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:49am
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we'll give Lead "first crack" at fast breaks, and Center can come in late if they had a look at something the Lead might not have had from their angle, like a push in the back, or a foul on the arm opposite that the Lead could easily miss in transition, even while in position.

lately i've personally been trying to get more calls from Center. and double whistles aren't a sin, just be sure to hold your prelims and be patient, release to the primary and/or be strong with your call...
many reasons here why a good pre-game is so important.
Well said!
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2016, 10:05am
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This is very good when what you're getting are those calls in C's paint. An engaged C can get more primary matchup calls/no-calls correct in that, his primary area. When L calls over in C's paint, especially with a quick, impulsive whistles, that's when call accuracy suffers. This is the hardest thing for Leads who are trying to make the transition from 2-person to 3-person to learn--to let C have that call over there, unless, of course, something is missed and secondary cadence whistle is called for. Wish you the best on your pursuit as an engaged, play-calling C!
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Well said!
thanks guys.

honestly, i say it before every game...that, "tonight i'm working on being better from C"
but it wasn't until i actually worked with a guy who was the epitome of the "well engaged C". that's when you can actually see it, and put practice to paint, noticing the calls he was making, etc... it was rather eye-opening to be honest. because as Lead, you can certainly appreciate a well engaged C, and he might even bail you out once or twice when you have those brain-freezes at Lead. (hey, it happens!)

and i think it can act as a pay-it-forward type deal....where the crew notices how well you did at C, and they make it a point to get better at C, and so on....
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2016, 12:19pm
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thanks guys.

honestly, i say it before every game...that, "tonight i'm working on being better from C"
but it wasn't until i actually worked with a guy who was the epitome of the "well engaged C". that's when you can actually see it, and put practice to paint, noticing the calls he was making, etc... it was rather eye-opening to be honest. because as Lead, you can certainly appreciate a well engaged C, and he might even bail you out once or twice when you have those brain-freezes at Lead. (hey, it happens!)

and i think it can act as a pay-it-forward type deal....where the crew notices how well you did at C, and they make it a point to get better at C, and so on....
Nothing makes a crew better than a great C.

The C has great looks at illegal screen, rebounding action, and drives in the paint. As the C you should get your share of calls in a game if you are active and are a good official. That's not to say you go looking for calls because sometimes you have a game where things just don't happen. For the most part, a good C will make the game better for everybody.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2016, 09:49am
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It's easier for me to get a typical block/charge call when coming at me. I am improving at picking it up from C (or at odd times even T). It makes sense to me that the primary official has the play "all the way", but on the court it seems L more often than not can see this as well or better, even if keeping an eye on an off ball matchup.
I agree, it's a hard thing to do and it would make sense to let the lead take the call when it comes from the trail. At least when it comes from the C, it's on the other side of the lane. The C should have a great view of that play.

I understand both sides of the debate.
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