Case Book: 7.4.b.

[Kansas Ref]

Please peruse the sitch described in 7.4.b..
I have observed 99.9% of refs to designate the throw-in for Team B at the original spot where A1 was, rather than heading to the other end of the court and designating a throw in for Team B at the nearest OOB spot.

[Dad]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

Please peruse the sitch described in 7.4.b..
I have observed 99.9% of refs to designate the throw-in for Team B at the original spot where A1 was, rather than heading to the other end of the court and designating a throw in for Team B at the nearest OOB spot.

Are you confusing this with the initial thrower in the play being OOB?

I can't even remember the last time I've seen this play mucked up. 99.9% seems off

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

Please peruse the sitch described in 7.4.b..
I have observed 99.9% of refs to designate the throw-in for Team B at the original spot where A1 was, rather than heading to the other end of the court and designating a throw in for Team B at the nearest OOB spot.

I don't have my books with me, but is this a caseplay regarding the spot of a backcourt violation? Or a potential back court violation that does not occur because the ball goes out of bounds before being touched in the backcourt by A?

In either case, the spot of the next throw in should be the spot nearest to where the violation (either out of bounds or backcourt) occurs.

Not a hard rule to understand, but hard to believe that you have observed 99.9% of refs get this wrong.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

Please peruse the sitch described in 7.4.b..
I have observed 99.9% of refs to designate the throw-in for Team B at the original spot where A1 was, rather than heading to the other end of the court and designating a throw in for Team B at the nearest OOB spot.

I've never seen an official bring the ball back to the spot nearest where A1 was standing inbounds when he threw the errand pass. You must be confusing plays.

[BillyMac]

7.4 SITUATION: What and where is the violation when: (b) A1, in a corner near B’s end line, throws a long pass which crosses the sideline in flight at the division line and touches in the bleachers near A’s end-line extended; RULING: In (b), the violation is for causing the ball to be out of bounds, but since the ball is not out of bounds until it touches something, the violation occurs when the ball touches the bleachers and the throw-in by B is at the out-of-bounds spot nearest such touching.

[egj13]

Yeah you must be confused with another play. NO WAY 99.9% of officials get this wrong...I can't buy it.

[WhistlesAndStripes]

I'm with everyone else on this one. I don't know that I've ever seen this one done wrong.

[PG_Ref]

I think Kansas Ref is thinking that A1's pass is from out of bounds and not inbounds.

[egj13]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

I think Kansas Ref is thinking that A1's pass is from out of bounds and not inbounds.

even if...99.9% of officials in his area are administering that play wrong? (thrower starting OOB)

[BlueDevilRef]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

I think Kansas Ref is thinking that A1's pass is from out of bounds and not inbounds.

I was confused for a second as well given the wording of the play. In a corner near the endline , in the play described, is inbounds. I should really read better


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[Adam]

Originally Posted by PG_Ref

I think Kansas Ref is thinking that A1's pass is from out of bounds and not inbounds.

In which case, his example of them doing it wrong is actually them doing it right.

[Kansas Ref]

yep, terrible wording in the case book, ok I understand now

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

yep, terrible wording in the case book, ok I understand now

I didn't think the case was at all hard to understand. What was wrong with it?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

... terrible wording in the case book ...

I actually found this (below) to be confusing. It didn't seem to match up with the casebook play.

Originally Posted by Kansas Ref

I have observed 99.9% of refs to designate the throw-in for Team B at the original spot where A1 was ...

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I didn't think the case was at all hard to understand.

Agree.

I still believe that the original poster confused a "regular" pass (as in the casebook play), with a throwin pass.