Which Side of the Lane Line?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't believe that I've ever had such a request, but if I did I would probably honor it, unless (as I've indicated previously) it was complicated by myself, or my partner, already marking the throwin location (note that I didn't use the word spot) by standing at said location with the ball (as we're supposed to do). Doing this would give the nonrequesting team (new defense) a disadvantage not intended by the rules.

This is exactly why it would be nice (not absolutely needed, but just nice) to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

I just don't see a problem with moving. The mechanic of standing in the throwin location isn't designed to solidify the location. But regardless, I'm just adding to the problem now so I'll bow out. We've beat this horse to death and beyond.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

I just don't see a problem with moving. The mechanic of standing in the throwin location isn't designed to solidify the location.

How many times does an assistant coach poke his head out of the huddle and ask, "Where's the throwin?", and we simply point to the official standing at the location with the ball? They wouldn't ask if it didn't make any difference to them as they set up their press, or their press break. (I coached middle school basketball for over twenty-five years so the location does make a difference to a coach, some players follow directions very literally) Changing the location of the throwin a few seconds before the end of the timeout could (possibly) create a disadvantage for the defensive team, and an advantage for the offensive team, advantages and disadvantages not intended by the rules.

Defensive Coach: "Hey Mr. Adam. We set up our press for the other side of the lane. Why did you change the spot from where your partner was standing with the ball, especially after my assistant coach asked about the location? Now I've got to burn another timeout to set up my press on the other side. Timeout please?" (This is the G-rated version that doesn't end with a few choice words and a technical foul).

And then, to make matters worse, at the very end of the second timeout the offensive coach requests to switch the side of the throwin a second time.

This is exactly why it would be nice to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

[Adam]

"coach, it's an endline throw-in, they can throw in from anywhere along the end line"

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

"Coach, it's an endline throw-in, they can throw in from anywhere along the end line"

Yes they can.

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Is A Throwin The Same As A Throwin Spot ???

Or, better yet, is a throwin the same as a throwin starting location?

4-42-3: The throw-in ... begin(s) when the ball is at the disposal of a player of the team entitled to it.

The throwin doesn't start before the ball is at the disposal of a player of the team entitled to it.

There's something that occurs immediately before a throwin.

I'm not sure what it is, but where the official stands with the ball before putting the ball at the disposal of the inbounder definitely isn't part of the throwin.

[BigCat]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Yes they can.



Or, better yet, is a throwin the same as a throwin starting location?

4-42-3: The throw-in ... begin(s) when the ball is at the disposal of a player of the team entitled to it.

The throwin doesn't start before the ball is at the disposal of a player of the team entitled to it.

There's something that occurs immediately before a throwin.

I'm not sure what it is, but where the official stands with the ball before putting the ball at the disposal of the inbounder definitely isn't part of the throwin.

See 6.5f. It is our job to decide where to hand ball to thrower "AFTER which" he can make throwin anywhere along endline. The team doesn't gets to decide where the throw in starts. I don't really care and will move if asked, but, as others have said, i likely won't if they wait until they are coming out of the huddle to ask. It has been requested before and when it is important enough they always ask early. Sorry to prolong this thread.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BigCat

See 6.5f. It is our job to decide where to hand ball to thrower "AFTER which" he can make throwin anywhere along endline. The team doesn't gets to decide where the throw in starts.

6.5 SITUATION F: What is the procedure for putting the ball in play after a score followed immediately by a timeout: The official shall hand, or bounce (as applicable by NFHS Officials Manual), the ball to a player of the team entitled to the throwin, after which the throwin may be made anywhere along the endline (7-5-7; 8-5)