Which Side of the Lane Line?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by packersowner

My comment was only related to bouncing the ball across the lane. Slightly different scenario, but it illustrates the point of bouncing the ball across the lane and why it can be confusing.

In 2 Man, if I am the T and see the ball go OOB on T side of the court, I am going to make the assumption that my partner is going to walk across the lane and take the ball out where it went OOB. When I turn up the court to become new lead and rotate from one side to another, I don't want to see my partner on the same side. For me its consistency, if we always "take it out" where it went out, then its a lot easier for the new L to get into the right position.

The ball didn't go OOB; its a made basket followed by time out. You are bringing up a situation that has nothing to do with the subject being discussed.

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[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand, just do not get the request. And do not see why it matters if you can coach.

Peace

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Because of this (below):

You mean the diagram for spot throw ins?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

Well we have a lot of request from coaches or players that do not matter. I am just waiting for coaches to make a big deal out of this either way. I simply do not hear much of anything from coaches on this who we seem to want to bend over so much for on something so silly as where we hand the ball to them.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

This is a better diagram. You do not put the ball in the lane according to the beloved manual.

Thanks for taking the time to scan the page from the manual. We would have believed you if you just quoted the manual.

"Beloved"? Get a room.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

You mean the diagram for spot throw ins?

Touché.

(My high school French teacher, Mrs. Schliffer, would be so proud of me. I even remembered to add the accent aigu.)

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

Is this a rhetorical question?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well we have a lot of request from coaches or players that do not matter. I am just waiting for coaches to make a big deal out of this either way. I simply do not hear much of anything from coaches on this who we seem to want to bend over so much for on something so silly as where we hand the ball to them.

Peace

It's not bending over backwards for me. Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling. Doesn't interrupt the game, doesn't take any extra time. Partners figure out real quick where they're supposed to go after the first horn based on where I'm standing with the ball. It's all rather ho-hum to me.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's not bending over backwards for me. Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling. Doesn't interrupt the game, doesn't take any extra time. Partners figure out real quick where they're supposed to go after the first horn based on where I'm standing with the ball. It's all rather ho-hum to me.

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Gotcha. I still believe that we have the right to tell them where we want to hand the ball to them. Again, this is why this is the way it is, we have no direction either way. So you are not wrong and I never said you were, but I am not moving unless it is made very clear to me what they are asking. The problem that request when I had it was very unclear and confusing. I am not taking a lot of time to try to figure them out on something where we are already set up.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling.

I don't believe that I've ever had such a request, but if I did I would probably honor it, unless (as I've indicated previously) it was complicated by myself, or my partner, already marking the throwin location (note that I didn't use the word spot) by standing at said location with the ball (as we're supposed to do). Doing this would give the nonrequesting team (new defense) a disadvantage not intended by the rules.

This is exactly why it would be nice (not absolutely needed, but just nice) to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not moving unless it is made very clear to me what they are asking. The problem that request when I had it was very unclear and confusing. I am not taking a lot of time to try to figure them out on something where we are already set up.

So, a head coach sticks his head out of his huddle and says "Hey, Mr. JRutledge. We want the throwin on the other side of the lane, opposite the table", after you, or one of your partners, had intended putting the ball in play on the table side of the lane (the way that you were oriented before the time out). That very clear, nonconfusing request will be honored by you?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

You mean the diagram for spot throw ins?

That diagram has little to do with what kind of throw-in takes place. You could have a violation or a foul that would allow you to "run" if the right violation/foul took place and put the ball back to the end line. That diagram just is for where we throw in the ball. Nothing about what type has to be executed. But most throw-ins anyway will be a spot throw-in regardless of this chart.

Peace

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So, a head coach sticks his head out of his huddle and says "Hey, Mr. JRutledge. We want the throwin on the other side of the lane, opposite the table". That clear request will be honored by you?

No. I am handing it to them on the end line where I was going to be at the very beginning. He better tell the entire crew.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't believe that I've ever had such a request, but if I did I would probably honor it, unless (as I've indicated previously) it was complicated by myself, or my partner, already marking the throwin location (note that I didn't use the word spot) by standing at said location with the ball (as we're supposed to do). Doing this would give the nonrequesting team (new defense) a disadvantage not intended by the rules.

This is exactly why it would be nice (not absolutely needed, but just nice) to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

I just don't see a problem with moving. The mechanic of standing in the throwin location isn't designed to solidify the location. But regardless, I'm just adding to the problem now so I'll bow out. We've beat this horse to death and beyond.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

That very clear, nonconfusing request will be honored by you?

Originally Posted by JRutledge

No. I am handing it to them on the end line where I was going to be at the very beginning. He better tell the entire crew.

Wait? You just implied that you would move if the request was made very clear to you? The definition of unless is except on the condition that, or except under the circumstances that.

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not moving unless it is made very clear to me what they are asking.