Which Side of the Lane Line?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I work all 3-man, it's still just a slight adjustment.

I understand, just do not get the request. And do not see why it matters if you can coach.

Peace

[Adam]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I understand, just do not get the request. And do not see why it matters if you can coach.

Peace

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

Well we have a lot of request from coaches or players that do not matter. I am just waiting for coaches to make a big deal out of this either way. I simply do not hear much of anything from coaches on this who we seem to want to bend over so much for on something so silly as where we hand the ball to them.

Peace

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Well we have a lot of request from coaches or players that do not matter. I am just waiting for coaches to make a big deal out of this either way. I simply do not hear much of anything from coaches on this who we seem to want to bend over so much for on something so silly as where we hand the ball to them.

Peace

It's not bending over backwards for me. Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling. Doesn't interrupt the game, doesn't take any extra time. Partners figure out real quick where they're supposed to go after the first horn based on where I'm standing with the ball. It's all rather ho-hum to me.

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[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It's not bending over backwards for me. Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling. Doesn't interrupt the game, doesn't take any extra time. Partners figure out real quick where they're supposed to go after the first horn based on where I'm standing with the ball. It's all rather ho-hum to me.

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Gotcha. I still believe that we have the right to tell them where we want to hand the ball to them. Again, this is why this is the way it is, we have no direction either way. So you are not wrong and I never said you were, but I am not moving unless it is made very clear to me what they are asking. The problem that request when I had it was very unclear and confusing. I am not taking a lot of time to try to figure them out on something where we are already set up.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I am not moving unless it is made very clear to me what they are asking. The problem that request when I had it was very unclear and confusing. I am not taking a lot of time to try to figure them out on something where we are already set up.

So, a head coach sticks his head out of his huddle and says "Hey, Mr. JRutledge. We want the throwin on the other side of the lane, opposite the table", after you, or one of your partners, had intended putting the ball in play on the table side of the lane (the way that you were oriented before the time out). That very clear, nonconfusing request will be honored by you?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

So, a head coach sticks his head out of his huddle and says "Hey, Mr. JRutledge. We want the throwin on the other side of the lane, opposite the table". That clear request will be honored by you?

No. I am handing it to them on the end line where I was going to be at the very beginning. He better tell the entire crew.

Peace

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Just a request that I've never had a problem fulfilling.

I don't believe that I've ever had such a request, but if I did I would probably honor it, unless (as I've indicated previously) it was complicated by myself, or my partner, already marking the throwin location (note that I didn't use the word spot) by standing at said location with the ball (as we're supposed to do). Doing this would give the nonrequesting team (new defense) a disadvantage not intended by the rules.

This is exactly why it would be nice (not absolutely needed, but just nice) to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I don't believe that I've ever had such a request, but if I did I would probably honor it, unless (as I've indicated previously) it was complicated by myself, or my partner, already marking the throwin location (note that I didn't use the word spot) by standing at said location with the ball (as we're supposed to do). Doing this would give the nonrequesting team (new defense) a disadvantage not intended by the rules.

This is exactly why it would be nice (not absolutely needed, but just nice) to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

I just don't see a problem with moving. The mechanic of standing in the throwin location isn't designed to solidify the location. But regardless, I'm just adding to the problem now so I'll bow out. We've beat this horse to death and beyond.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

I just don't see a problem with moving. The mechanic of standing in the throwin location isn't designed to solidify the location.

How many times does an assistant coach poke his head out of the huddle and ask, "Where's the throwin?", and we simply point to the official standing at the location with the ball? They wouldn't ask if it didn't make any difference to them as they set up their press, or their press break. (I coached middle school basketball for over twenty-five years so the location does make a difference to a coach, some players follow directions very literally) Changing the location of the throwin a few seconds before the end of the timeout could (possibly) create a disadvantage for the defensive team, and an advantage for the offensive team, advantages and disadvantages not intended by the rules.

Defensive Coach: "Hey Mr. Adam. We set up our press for the other side of the lane. Why did you change the spot from where your partner was standing with the ball, especially after my assistant coach asked about the location? Now I've got to burn another timeout to set up my press on the other side. Timeout please?" (This is the G-rated version that doesn't end with a few choice words and a technical foul).

And then, to make matters worse, at the very end of the second timeout the offensive coach requests to switch the side of the throwin a second time.

This is exactly why it would be nice to get some guidance from the NFHS regarding this matter.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

Is this a rhetorical question?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Adam

If it doesn't matter, then how is this thread now nearly 100 posts strong?

I can think of two reasons.

[jpgc99]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I can think of two reasons.

This made me laugh. But for some reason it was somewhat entertaining. Maybe I'm just bored.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jpgc99

This made me laugh. But for some reason it was somewhat entertaining. Maybe I'm just bored.

Anything, entertaining, or not, that makes us stick our nose into a rulebook, or a mechanics manual, is worth the effort. We can't save the NFHS from imploding on itself but we can sure try.