Pass and Crash

[Gutierrez7]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

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As for a pass going back out to the "joint coverage area" at the 3pt arc on a pass/crash....I don't think I've seen it in over 20 years of officiating. The passes are almost exclusively to someone cutting along the endline or to someone in the corner....never back out to the top.

Clarification: pass to JCA near 3pt arc in/near the "corner" by the "end line".

Does that help? Will that change your comments?

Thanks again.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Gutierrez7

Clarification: pass to JCA near 3pt arc in/near the "corner" by the "end line".

That doesn't sound like any kind of "joint coverage area" for two-person mechanics.

[Gutierrez7]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

That doesn't sound like any kind of "joint coverage area" for two-person mechanics.

Simply trying to articulate in words that the ball moved far away as possible from the Lead and Trail and not back out to the top of the key.

Does that help?

What is your judgement on the OP scenarios? Thanks.

[deecee]

The boundary in the paint and FT line extended is the dual coverage spots in 2-person mechanics.

In 3 person the corner at the L/T area is kinda a dual coverage spot in NCAAM but for the L it's only to mark, the T has the shooter and all subsequent contact.

[deecee]

Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball. In the dual cover spots ideally I prefer the T take the 3.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball. In the dual cover spots ideally I prefer the T take the 3.

Agree.

That is probably a lot cleaner way of describing what I was saying.

However, does that still apply if the L has crossed the paint to be on the same side as the T?

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

However, does that still apply if the L has crossed the paint to be on the same side as the T?

Why not? you still have an obligation to your PCA first and foremost.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by deecee

Why not? you still have an obligation to your PCA first and foremost.

In 2-person, when the lead comes strong side, the trail is expected to pick up some of what is normally the L's PCA (the far side) if there is an immediately pass/play out there before the L returns. In that case, it could be that the T has the better view of a pass to the opposite side while the L might be screen out of that.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by deecee

Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball.

That's how we do it in my little corner of Connecticut. It hasn't always been that way, but that's the way we do it now.

(It used to be Lead takes the pass, Trail takes the crash.)

It certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by billymac

it certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

+100

[OKREF]

"Lead takes the pass, Trail takes the crash", what we do here.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It certainly should be part of any good pregame conference.

With all of the stuff I see people say should be part of a pregame conference, I'd have to get to my games 3 days early just to cover it all.

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

With all of the stuff I see people say should be part of a pregame conference, I'd have to get to my games 3 days early just to cover it all.

Kinda sad a lot of HS guys spend more time pregaming the 7-8 mechanics things they do differently than everyone else instead of more important things.

Originally Posted by deecee

Rule of thumb is whomever's primary the ball goes to that official stays with the ball.

That's what I've heard as well. If the pass is within your primary, you take the ball. If the pass is out of your primary you take the crash. I'm comfortable with any official getting the crash with a cadence whistle, provided they don't signal into a blarge.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by Gutierrez7

Clarification: pass to JCA near 3pt arc in/near the "corner" by the "end line".

Does that help? Will that change your comments?

Thanks again.

There is no such thing in 2-person. The only overlapping coverage area is where the lane line extended intercepts the 3-point arc.