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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:05pm
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You state does not have a procedure to report a coach for any unsportsmanlike conduct that takes place outside of the game? That is the case where I live, so if we had to write up a coach, the state can deal with the accordingly. But you cannot give a T after you have left the visual confines of the court. No rules support at all, but that is what others have said. But I would think you can report events that could happen for example in the parking lot if a coach confronted you, like what happened in my area about a week ago with a coach punching an official.

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:42pm
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JRutledge what on earth happened?
An official after a lower level game was confronted in the parking lot and punched. The coach was given a T during the game and claimed after he was arrested that the officials bumped him on the way out the school (after the game of course). Then the coach followed the individual and punched the official in the confrontation. The home school (not the school the coach belonged to) insisted that he file a police report.

The official also filed a "Special Report" and that is where some of the "coach's story" came from. And it appears not many saw it the way of the coach.

This is what I am talking about should have been dealt with in this situation if there is a formal process to get a report filed. I would hope that would be the case as our report is also a legal document of any incident that might involve a crime.

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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 02:14pm
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You state does not have a procedure to report a coach for any unsportsmanlike conduct that takes place outside of the game? That is the case where I live, so if we had to write up a coach, the state can deal with the accordingly. But you cannot give a T after you have left the visual confines of the court. No rules support at all, but that is what others have said. But I would think you can report events that could happen for example in the parking lot if a coach confronted you, like what happened in my area about a week ago with a coach punching an official.

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I believe JRUT and myself are both from IL. We have two reports on the IHSA website under the officials link we can file. The special report is a link you can file such a incident. The other is SAWA (sport a winning attitude) report. I am sure most states have something similar.
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Don't make it personal. I realize how hard that is and every official struggles with it but T's and ejections are not personal. Dick Bevetta had a great interview on game day several years ago talking about just this issue. Many officials are viewed as making it personal and it reflects badly on everyone. Going back onto floor was not supported by rule or a good idea bc if you were concerned about safety, going back to the place that wasn't safe just was not a good idea. And coming to the board and admitting you wanted to make sure he did not get to be on bench next game makes it personal. And continuing to add the space before coach, where I assume we are to enter our own negative vulgar adjective about him, makes it personal.

Deal with the stuff we have to and write the report after.


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Old Mon Dec 21, 2015, 10:35pm
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I think it's dangerous and short sighted to go back.

I also don't think it's supported by rule although I'm less bothered by that part.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 08:57am
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This topic reminded me of a situation/question I meant to ask this board about. Saturday, BV. Assistant coach makes a comment about a call I made, so I whack him. HC was not pleased with me. Was I too quick on this? My line of thinking is that I'll listen to a comment or two from HC, but definitely not from an assistant. How would you guys handle this?
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:01am
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This topic reminded me of a situation/question I meant to ask this board about. Saturday, BV. Assistant coach makes a comment about a call I made, so I whack him. HC was not pleased with me. Was I too quick on this? My line of thinking is that I'll listen to a comment or two from HC, but definitely not from an assistant. How would you guys handle this?

Depending on the nature of the comment, I'll sometimes give a HC ONE chance to get his ASSistant coach in order, but I have very low tolerance for ASSistants and their comments.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:04am
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Depending on the nature of the comment, I'll sometimes give a HC ONE chance to get his ASSistant coach in order, but I have very low tolerance for ASSistants and their comments.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:17am
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Whack. No chance I'm passing on that one. Nor would I want to. Nor should any official.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:15am
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This topic reminded me of a situation/question I meant to ask this board about. Saturday, BV. Assistant coach makes a comment about a call I made, so I whack him. HC was not pleased with me. Was I too quick on this? My line of thinking is that I'll listen to a comment or two from HC, but definitely not from an assistant. How would you guys handle this?
I'd rather you give out too many T's early in your career. You can be dialed back by a good mentor or supervisor.
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Old Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:50am
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Had an assistant scream at a partner last night. When my partner looked towards the bench to see who it was, the guy yelled at him again.

Whack.

When the HC started arguing the technical instead of roping in his assistant and wouldn't let an official get a word in edgewise, he got one too. I had to stop the administering of the initial 2 free throws to add 2 more.
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