Ball-handlers / Freedom of Movement

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Again, thank you for proving my point.

If you say so. I did not start calling "Two hands on the dribbler" as an automatic foul in a NF game until they added 10-6-12. I never looked at the other contact rules under 10-6 as the same thing and no one else seemed to believe that because they had to add the last part of that rule.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

If you say so. I did not start calling "Two hands on the dribbler" as an automatic foul in a NF game until they added 10-6-12. I never looked at the other contact rules under 10-6 as the same thing and no one else seemed to believe that because they had to add the last part of that rule.

Peace

Precisely my point again. You and others were not getting it. They tried to tell us that and since it obviously wan't working for you, they changed the wording to get people to get it. And you're still not realizing you were not getting it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Precisely my point again. You and others were not getting it. They tried to tell us that and since it obviously wan't working for you, they changed the wording to get people to get it. And you're still not realizing you were not getting it.

I get what you are saying, I just do not agree with you. It is OK to disagree. Never heard anyone suggest that 10-6-12 was the interpretation or ever saw that in practice before the rule was put into place.

Peace

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I get what you are saying, I just do not agree with you. It is OK to disagree. Never heard anyone suggest that 10-6-12 was the interpretation or ever saw that in practice before the rule was put into place.

Peace

And THAT was the problem.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And THAT was the problem.

Agree with Camron Rust. That's how the change, or lack of, was explained to us.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

And THAT was the problem.

It might have been a problem, but who created the problem? If you want people to apply a rule that you are only assuming that others understand, you have a problem. But to suggest that was the rule is also not accurate. Also there was no such interpretation that made those things specifically a foul.

Now before the NF put the rules in place, the IHSA adopted the "NCAA Guidelines" that ended up being NF Rules a year after (or two years after) to direct how they wanted these plays to be called. And the IHSA referenced RSBQ as well as a way to determine other types of contact. And if I recall people like yourself told people not to use RSBQ and now in all interpretations RSBQ was used as a way to figure out many fouls with the players on the floor and certainly the ball handler.

Peace